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Is one of the greatest magicians that's ever lived and I don't say that lightly. This guy has performed tricks in front of us before the show. And even after the show that freak me the fuck out. He's a wizard and be forewarned. There are some disturbing moments in this podcast. I don't want to give you any spoiler alerts. He is a he's a powerful and strange human being and I say that with all love.
And due respect please welcome David Blaine.
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great collection. Yeah, this is these
are all from plasticity Outlook. Even the sun glasses come off on. Wow. Yeah, it's pretty dope that John Wick John Wick in his pit bull, which is awesome. Yeah, I got Kanye Bruce Lee but the glasses of Big E as I know. Well, this guy's amazing. Shout out to Fong from plastisol. Make some dope shit.
Yeah, he's amazing but not as amazing as that shit you did in the Green Room Man David just did some card Wizardry that it's one thing that you see when you see that shit on TV like man, if I was there, I'd see some shit. I know what's going on. But when you see it in real life you like what is happening here.
It's way better like in person than
100. Yeah. Well at the end, I'd only give anything away, but the end literally a man is holding one of his wrists and another guy's holding the other
Wrist and he still does the car trick. We still can't figure out what happened. When did you get started? How old were you sigh I was about
five years old when I started playing with cards, but I didn't know what what they were for really so I just had a deck of cards that I carried everywhere, but I like the way it felt, you know, just like it felt like something cool. Hmm. So eventually a librarian was like, oh we got this like magic self working card trick book in do you want to learn something?
And I was like, yeah, you should of course and she shows me the this that's silly self working mathematical trick. That's a long process to do but it's still a cool outcome. Like oh I found your card, right and my mother I used to wait for her at the library and she'd come get me when she was done. And when she came I said, can I show you this trick and the librarian was excited for me to do it to her, which is what I do to my friends kids. I teach them a trick and make them really good at it. And then I'm
So excited to see them do it, you know, right? Okay. So my mother comes I do the trick and my mom goes crazy like it was a bad like it was the best thing
ever. It's
somewhat like but that began the love of wanting to learn new tricks because I wanted to keep making her, you know react, you know hair with it. So that was basically the fundamental start of it. And then also she would take me to Coney Island all the time and you know on the side on the boardwalk there. There's those weird
Freak Show performance of side watch those guys and it to me, it was all like magical. So that was kind of the beginning of it.
So isn't it funny how one positive experience when you're young can ignite this chain of
events? Yeah that changes your whole life by the way and also so then the librarian when I would come she would give me books and I would start looking at that little magic section that was between like games and puzzles. Should I thought I always wished magic would be like
Not there, like it should be like an art or so, you know, just as it was always like when you want a magic book, it's always like that silly like kids jokey thing but there's like so in that section. I pulled out a book and I was like six years old and I see a guy chained to the side of a building staring out looking like death is upon it and that was who Didi and I didn't know anything about what that all meant. I look through the pictures and he was hanging upside down and stuff like that, but
I went to sleep I would have these dreams of this guy chained to the side of a building and that began my curiosity and love of Houdini and then that began my curiosity of like not just like the magic trick stuff but like this stuff that's to me. It's more like
real. Yeah. How do those Two Worlds Collide because some of the things you're doing there, they're just insane endurance and mental exercises and then other things you're doing are what
would consider magic right? So so I love both
separately like independently, like I always loved like I had a karate teacher at the YMCA that used to make us all run Barefoot in the snow in the winter and Brooklyn and the all the kids will yeah, you know, we're young. We're like six seven all the kids like yeah, you know and afraid they were going to cut their feet on glass or whatever and I would run in it and I felt like I could do this because I wasn't good at other things physically like I was born my feet turned in and stuff like that. So I felt like this I could do.
These things so then I learned how to hold my breath. And the reason I learned how to hold my breath was simply because I was on the swim team at the Y also and the other kids would swim back and forth and they destroy me because my feet didn't function perfectly. Well and what I learned is that if I didn't breathe if I just swam it would save me time because I didn't have to move my head dip it out and you know, right so I would just swim and coach would yell at me but suddenly I was no longer in last place. I was like now second and sometimes first and that
That began my like. Oh God, you can actually do what the coach doesn't think his possibly could swim there and back without breathing and then the older kids would come to see me do that and I would like challenge them. I'd be like, let's see you could stay under the longest and go up and down five times. I didn't understand the physiology of it that like going up and down doesn't help. It's more effective to just sit through the bay to just kind of chill but I would just sit there and they'd go up and down and come back down at which makes it worse that they'd be out and I still make it worse.
Because the breath-holding thing is all about like a CEO to build up in your blood stream and it's about tolerance level to it. So if you relax and efficiently keep your oxygen not make this CO2 build-up more extreme. You can actually hold more efficiently.
So when you have that feeling everybody has that feeling where you need to
breathe. Yeah. It's it's not an O2 deprivation. It's a trigger from a CO2 build-up, which is giving you an alert that for example in 20 minutes from now, you will not recover and I didn't believe that either.
Either some magician friend of mine who's amazing and one of my like heroes in life. He he told me a story as I was doing like buried alive only thing he said, you know, you know the Navy Seals, you know, they black them out underwater. So they're not afraid of drowning and I'm like that can't no way like because it seems so abstract of it, you know, so but it stuck in my brain and then when
Wanted to do the water tank stunt and I started learning about free diving and stuff like that. I suddenly realize blacking out is pretty straightforward like you black out and then you get your head above the water and if your supervisor you're fine, so when I went to San Diego with the seals, I watched what they do and I actually did it but I didn't black out a went back and forth a few times and pull but they have that viewing pool and they wrote The Seals up to some 45 pound weights and they have to walk across the bottom of the pool and the instructors are swimming above them. And when the when the seals blackout they
Cut the Rope bring them all to the top and they're fine but what that teaches you is that you do not need to worry about being underwater because if you're with a team and by the way that nobody should try this, you know, there is Extreme dangers to shallow water blackout which lead to death but if you are in somebody that's training and you have a team and you want to push it as soon as you black out it's like getting knocked out so it's but it feels better. It's not like getting knocked out with a punch. It's like you getting commits you for no, but
Out. Yeah, the choked out is you for right? Yeah, exactly except this one's even better. And then you have all these dreams know it know it
sound exciting that part of it whenever I wake up from a blackout like whoa, that's some people wake up when they get choked out really the same. Yeah, when people get choked out they wake up almost like they were dreaming like sometimes they think they're at a disco. Yeah. It's amazing like what? Yeah. Yeah. It's not the best thing in the world.
World for you, but it's way better for you than getting knocked unconscious. Yeah. Yeah chose the head. Yeah choked out is just a just shuts off the blood to the brain, right the brain shuts off. Yeah, and then it comes back online, but there's no trauma, right? Yeah, but it's not. Yeah, so it's like a she
had blacking out
underwater blacking out underwater thing. Probably not a good idea to do too many times. All
right know you could do it. I mean, I've blacked out underwater a lot how many times by the way so okay times. I don't know like between 20 to 30.
Wow, by the way, you guys were talking about me on the thing about the breath-hold thing. Yeah. So yeah one time I went 20 minutes and 2 seconds. I almost did what you were talking about the length of a show that I did 20 minutes into seconds and I had to Lemon Tree there and I had pulmonary experts and everything like that and my heart rate dropped to 8 beats per minute, holy shape and they pulled me up because they were freaked
out Like You Were Dying. Yeah, but
back to her saying is the reason besides a Navy SEAL story that I knew that it was it made sense was.
Because you hear about the kids in the news like in 1984, whatever it was a kid was under an icy River for 45 minutes. Yeah with nothing blacked out unconscious under water for 45 minutes. They rescue him out. Pull them back recover him and full recovery. So there's something that the body does that we don't understand it. But if you actualized so because he blacked out and because it was so cold the blood shunting occurred were all like
Same as when you get called the blood rushes away from the extremities and protects the vital organs and because he didn't inhale the water because it was completely out of it when they recovered him. They didn't even have to get water out of his lungs and he was perfectly fine. Wow, so but that just shows you that there's like certain levels of of what the body can tolerate that we have no
idea so you in learning how to swim and learning how to go all the way back and forth and holding your breath this started.
This idea of holding your breath for an extreme long period of time like what had been the record before you had like 20 minutes and how many seconds 2 seconds? Yes. He did. Yeah, but what did you done? So what have you done before that would have been your
wreck a so when I was a kid I heard as I start reading about Houdini his like proud record of his lifetime and he's the underwater Escape king for a hundred years ago and he had he was around the best swimmers and he had access him and he got up to three and a half minutes. So by the time I was like,
Teenager or early teenager. I got two three and a half minutes.
Do you think that that was a barrier that couldn't be crossed at while I came I blacked out as
I came out, but I didn't know what that all meant. Right so I blacked out was that size like okay that 330 seems like the edge but then when I started working on the actual concept of like, how long can you hold your breath for then? I started looking into them like, oh, wow, there's like people that can do five minutes six minutes seven minutes, and then there was a
Hypothetical record of of a hypothetical 13-minute record, but no evidence of it and that was on pure O2 so as a hypothetical Bureau to record of 13 when you say on
pure O2 was here also
said that flushes everything out. So you start and
hero2. Yeah, that'll on the Purity and the I going to
herds really hard on pure tuza which is like Hypervenom which gets rid of the CO2 and gives you more room for oxygen and by the way,
I just went up to 25,000 feet in an airplane descending at 500 feet per minute doors open everything no oxygen and I was with Luke aikins who jumped from 25,000 feet with no parachute Landing that he was with me and two other the pilot and two other guys would just write under 25 as a 24/7 whatever and
He's I said, let's see who goes hypoxic first, right? So no. No, but we have no but you have to take the ox the O2 you have to take the CO2 monitors. You have to be on the right. So and I was already in a hyperbaric chamber with the FAA it Oklahoma City and I started purging just to see what it would do and my levels my oxygen level shot up which nobody believes as possible. So I get into the airplane and we put the monitors on and everybody's around the same. I was actually lower than Luke. I
By getting 90 whatever 596 he was at like 97. He's like, oh, I'm going to go get a Joker with it. And as soon as we cross 15,000 feet
His slowly starting to come down and I start doing the breathing technique the purging out. Like I said, right my oxygen levels and we filmed all this shot up to 98. And then 99% is I went up to 23 plus thousand feet. Now these guys think I'm a magician. So they're like, yeah, haha
like fake news. That's what he wrote on the paper next to the levels because he was recording it.
So
Took his monitor off of his finger and he took mine. I put his monitor on my finger put mine on his bang his was dropping around 70 and mine was 98 99. Then I switch with day I switch with everybody on the plane and the oxygen levels with the breathing all the way up to that altitude and I'm not recommending this because I haven't tested enough and it but they did stay up at 98 99 and so my evidence for that was
you hear about all the Sherpas it go up to the top of Everest up to 29,000 feet and they're not bringing oxygen. I get it there acclimating six, but they're still at 29 plus thousand feet. So they're doing something that's allowing them to rewire their ability to Naco
hypoxic.
So this breathing technique you're essentially exhaling more than you're breathing in. So you're breathing a small amount in and then
and then I fill up everything for fall, but I've been full like top and bottom hold for a second and then exhale slowly and I'd like for example if when we're done here, if you have 20 minutes, I'll get you up to a four and a half minute breath-hold.
In 20 minutes
and this is just through these breathing techniques. Yeah, when we're done with this, I'll
show you how to do it and you will get up to 4 plus minutes for sure.
And how did you so you've learned that you could go three and a half minutes or three minutes plus right? And yeah and and black out and then how did you have it in your head that you were going to eventually get a 20 minutes?
Okay. So you really want to hear? All right. Yeah, it's a long I'll go let's go. Oh can't I forget where I'm going. Okay, okay.
You might have to remind me where we're going. Yeah, okay
another process because okay now but it's a long session by trade a very well, but first of all, I
like Houdini, so I love magic but I like Houdini Houdini was I king of guards as well. But he's a guy that's doing real think right and then I like guys that are like as I go I go to the museum or broadcasting because there was no YouTube or whatever side look at like these Matic you search magic and I'd find like guys that would like drink a gallon of water drink a liter of kerosene he would
Float, all the kerosene on top of the water and then he would spit out kerosene out of his mouth look like a human dragon and then put the fire out with a gallon of water. So it's that it is Magic but it's it's art it's mind-blowing. It's an art. It's a performance piece. It's not like it's incredible. Now, look, there's guys that are card guys that are like that also like lots lots of people I love and they do the cards in a way that's like, but but that act to me was what pressed a button.
I was like, whoa, like how is he converting his body to do a trick and there's a guy today performing Called Stevie Starr who's called the human regurgitator, but he swallows crazy things like it. So he combines magic with his ability. So he went on Jay Leno or what? Yeah, I think was an orc Arsenal. He takes a you know, the little film canisters that used to drink so he puts a film canister empty. I closes it for the you know, you get the 37 and then he goes
And then he swallows it so it's in it's yeah, it's gone and he goes like that Scott then he would take a bunch of water drink that and then there'd be a cup with a goldfish in it drinks the cup in the Goldfish and then he have Jay Leno signed the cap the the lid thing to the thing with a piece of tape and sign it right then he take that go everything is gone. Then he does these weird sounds and movements which is part of his show right and then he brings
it up.
Up spits it out and the film canister is
sealed and it is the water and the fish and it's sealed with the signature. So to me that's like the coolest magic because you're take because when you see a trick, you know, like oh, that's cool, but it's a trick. So it's like you're being removed from being able to like absorb, but when you see something where somebody's doing something crazy and it seems like a trick but it's also like wait this is real because he's really doing this. It's just the way
More exciting, you
know, I understand. I understand it's just do you know how he did that one? Obviously not. Yeah,
I talked to him. Yeah, I talk to him all the time. Yeah, I love Stevie Stevie Starr,
you know how it was done, but you can't reveal
that right? Yeah and okay. There's another guy Tom Mollica who he passed away and he was this guy he's the first magician ever. So he did a simple card trick and I was crying as I could tears. I was like, oh my God, but he and he passed away and I feel
That and and he's going to do a really amazing piece about it because he is incredible but he also was on like Johnny Carson he shows what he would do is he would take a pack of cigarettes throw them into his mouth one at a time like them on fire bring them back out and then throw them into his mouth one at a time eat all the cigarette. Yes,
there is so and watch he eats my cigarettes. Wow, that's great how fast they pulled that up? It's not that it's young Jamie.
Always you
He's a wizard.
Yeah, he's a wizard of your lord. So he
takes by the way the sack kill them. So that's how dedicated to his craft. He didn't really yeah, look he was eating a pack of cigarettes every night on stage. I mean to sing
follow them and while most One Lie cigarette or yeah and then but wait he
also throws them into his mouth like oh
my God, so now he's chewing them. What is he
chewing? He's just amazing, but Holly I get to where he's throwing them into his mouth 200 boy. Yes, he throws
Into his mouth one at a time. They're lit. He chews them up swallows and his mouth
was I didn't look at the lady. Let me show you what the fuck am I doing here? Oh my God, look at that stack in his
mouth. And then look the whole thing goes in by the way. He also throws them one at a time does all that puts a paper in
oh Jesus Christ and swallows
it all.
Oh my God. Yep. He's
so happy this kill him.
Every single night just wanting answers a night at a bar doing cigarettes in your mouth on fire eating them swallowing
them, right but what but he died for
you cancer. Yeah boy. Yeah, but wait so so
he spits them out eventually or you just swallow
them. I'm not going to give away his
genius right there in the video to the air come out. Oh, no,
they're gone. They just yeah.
Yeah. See, that's the thing. It's like I
got this is a guy that died for his art.
Yeah. Yeah. Wow, but that so another the guy was telling you about that's like my favorite card, which is the guy that taught that showed me the Navy SEAL, but just an amazing dish is a library. He he's like this genius that if he came here which he never would because he would never show anybody anything but if he did and he showed you a couple of Moves Like the first move. He showed me was actually a card move called Ascension where he makes the card float right through the deck and like the greatest magician of all time, like card magician said it was one of
The greatest tricks ever done you won't be able to find it anywhere because it's not a video but he he only does it to a couple of magicians. So he performs for like, you know a handful of his friends. He shows the move and it's mind-blowing and luckily. He showed me something I was young but he'll never ever perform. He's like does a painter paint so he can show people it does a painter paint to paint. But whenever you're on the phone with him, you just hear cards like he's like
he's now and he's doing it he's doing I'm telling you.
Like 13 they long 13 hours a day. He's doing card moves alone. And I said but as I bill what do you do? Do you like do the trick to yourself? But
yeah, you better be when he said he
doesn't believe that it's not to him. It's not a performance to him. It's it's just about the technical love and feel of that. Well, that's
that there's a Japanese phrase for that about doing something over and over and over and over the exact same thing over and over again to you achieve a level of perfection. That is
Is almost physically unattainable to mere mortals you bypass what a person thinks the the body would be capable of
doing. Yep. Yeah. That's that's it. That's it. Yeah, that's what he's
doing. That is the thing I give you can either you know, James Nestor is yeah, of course, we're at the book D.
Yes. Yeah deep is
amazing. I don't know deep but I've got some book for a feet. Yeah breath is the one that I read and I had them on the podcast that he's an amazing was talking about this monk that was
Literally meditating and doing breathing exercises all day long for 30 years and could do these insane things with his body like vary the temperature from one hand to another change the blood flow to change it literally from one finger to the shore and that yeah, you're the only way you could get to that place is you have to be that guy sits in a cave and does breath work all day long for 30 years and most people just aren't willing to do that. But if you do do that there
Are some levels that you can reach that are just unattainable to a normal person and even if you would talk to but I agree with the scientists in but dr. Nobody
is attainable to normal
people because
when somebody gets paralyzed or something, right, I've seen people that the doctors say you're done. You have no shot and they spend all day of every single waking moment trying to get like a little moment just like a tiny bit of movement in their little toe and eventually if they do the what you're saying if yes, so it is
Yeah, it is that it's but most people are not willing to get to that place. Most people are not going to sit there shuffling cards 14 hours a day like your friend. Yeah, but there's people that can do that like when I was watching you move the cards around. Well, it's interesting like you ever watch a movie where a guy smoking a cigarette. You know, that God has really smoke you can kind of tell by the way, he's holding the cigarette if that's good. If you're moving these cards around like your your Edge detection like your understanding of where the egg,
It's very interesting to watch your fingers move because they're so they're so educated, you know, because of all the commentary that I do with martial arts and my years in martial arts. It's I'm fascinated by how different people move and they do the same thing the it looks different when other people do it, there's certain people that will throw a punch and you just walk out of your you go Jesus. There's something about the the fluidity of the motion that's stunning even to this day. And that was just what I was
Watching you move your fingers and watching you move the cars like this motherfucker. I shuffled a lot of cards. There's a weirdness to the the movement of your
hands, but I think it's what you're saying. It's like the punch things like there's yeah. Yeah, but it's it
is but it's the you you the Mind forces the body into moving over and over and over again, you know, you do it to this level of perfection that you for a person like me who doesn't know anything about
About cards. I don't know anything about card tricks. I don't know how they work. I can't Shuffle if you watch me Shuffle you'd fucking laugh at me. But I watch your your hand movements and like oh that is amazing. It's amazing. But now there's guys
that I'm around that I wouldn't even pull a deck of cards out of my pocket if they're near me
because they're that guy that does it 30 now.
Yeah, like yeah, like like the guy just so
pleased that it's got fascinated.
But but yeah, but there's also different aspects of That's So like, you know, there's also guys
I'm not going to go into details. Okay, but I met I feel like I shouldn't even say this but it's fine because it's fine. So I met a kid once who moved to Las Vegas when he was this is crazy story to tell damn but it's a good story. Okay, I won't go into details. So he moved to Las Vegas and he was 12.
He moved there because he wanted to meet a specific person who was considered the best card cheat ever. Meaning the guy. This is a guy that the reason that Vegas has those instead of like the dealer peeking the the down card they have to put it into a machine and push a button. He's the guy that the movie Casino was built around with the computer in the shoe. Like he was the the best card she ever
Among magicians. He's like a phenomenon because he's working on moves not to entertain anybody. He's working on move. So he doesn't get his hands smashed up against the wall Binion's. Hmm, right? So he's working on Musa he's not going to get killed survival. Yes. Yeah, so he right. So this kid at the age of 12 knows about him moves to Las Vegas and buys a craps table.
He puts the craps table to him and his mom right as mother single mother and him they live in this small apartment. Very close to the man. I was telling you about and this kid throws dice 15 hours a day on this craps table. By the way, their little bed is like under the tape, you know, I mean, it's a small space and it's a real craps table like a nice one. The only thing he does is repetitiously throw that and he can helicopter spin the dice so you
Can't see them doing this if such Force going around this way that when they hit the wall one died won't break the number and he can throw it exactly to this part of the of the table missing this from across the table. So that one day locks in every time he can guarantee that number. He did that every day for almost a decade until he could throw dice better than any other human being in the world. Then he went and got a job at one of the casinos at x 4 car cheats and worked in the craps.
Tables it's all he did. And as soon as he turned 21, he went out travels the world and wins the exact amount of money that he should win playing craps where you're not detected. But but you can what is the exact amount? I mean II under you know under a million. Yeah, I probably familiar the years of up saying it's not like he's going in and getting angry. It's very smart and structured.
Yeah, and that's only live
places and he can throw dice like I've never seen anybody throw dice. It's
He's
I know that they take people that are really good at cards. Like my friend Dana White has been barred from casinos because he wins at blackjacks probably
just counting. I don't know what
he's doing. He's counting but they've kicked him out of casinos because he's won a lot of money, but he's also lost a lot of money which is bizarre to me that you can go to a place and do really well and they're like you're doing too. Well, you got to get out of here
while they also it says mine everything we have the right to refuse anybody which is important because they do
that with dice is the question get the hell they would do that with her.
Do you want to hear advice? Because
this isn't me doing magic. This is luck. Okay. Okay, so I don't believe it is I don't like the way
you paused. But if I'm serious I know but I'm saying that
because I'm trying to be convinced. It's okay. Okay, so because I'm telling the truth, but anyway I go to the Palms, you know the yeah, okay, and they had a bet on the craps table called the fire bet and it was like a game where you have to hit all the numbers open and close without but crap.
Hang out so when I walk up to the table right away the Pit Boss and everybody to make a big deal. Like you can't touch the values and they're like I said, you can call up I can touch the dice. I'm because you know, they invited me so I was a kind touch the dice and because I wanted to throw right? I don't want to just gamble and Iran Saudi way. I am because even though I'm not cheating. I still feel like, you know, maybe I'll get I have a little bit of an ability.
That's giving you know what? I mean, right not a cheating ability, but maybe I'm a little better than a random person right got it. So the pit ball they make a joke. And then the woman proposed comes out. She says well if you take your shirt off a let you throw the dice joking I so anyway, what I do is I bet for everybody at the in this I go to the low stakes table always so the high-stakes tables that Super Bowl team right over there and I like yeah, they're all crazy. Right? I'm all excited with these big but I'm here with this table we all have
Little bats, right? Did I say let's put a fire bit down for everybody. So I put the fire bit down for every single person at the table including the dealers that I mean the pit bull, you know, the you know with the dicing and I'm throwing the dice down the dice and this goes on for two and a half hours. I keep throwing the dice. I didn't hit us. I didn't crap out I hit sevens in between each number what's going on craps work? So you have to roll like a 5 let's say and then I'm like, oh no, I need to roll another.
A 5 which is statistically much more difficult than a 7 because 7 is the most common number to come up. So if you roll a five you're like, oh that's hard because you can only get a 2 3 or 3 2 on both dice or a 1 4 or 4/1. So you have a 4 out of 36. So it's a 1 and 9 so you're probably going to crap out before you get the number that's why the game is to their favor. So I'm doing the dice and it's two and a half hours later and they
Everything and they're like your fire, but just hit and the table goes what is that be they go will you all just one like 10 grand each and they'll go everybody's go they gave me the taser. Everybody's going nuts and we hit the fire but would save now remove from The Palms either way, but it was it was a pretty unheard of like the odds of hitting that bet is pretty rare, but it just luck.
Nobody should hit that bet. I mean statistically it's unlikely and I wasn't cheating. So yeah,
so do they but the question I'm luck for sometimes I'm light. I'm lucky with dice
right but I'm not I but I can tell you I would be if I was great with dice. I tell you I was good though. By the way, I actually have a die on you first.
Why do you walk on this story for this reason, but I'll do have a diode. Have you practice with
dice?
Yes, but I'm terrible at it. So I did I do have a
but it does make sense that but now that I can what that is that that's a physical thing and then if you develop a touch you develop a feel you do something over and over and over.
Well, this is different but here look take the die. Okay, and and can you like put it between your hand or whatever like and can you mix it like that and then squeeze it when you're done Urban. No, keep it hidden, but put it on the table, but make sure you can.
See it and I can't see it. So great. Like no one could see that
right? No, it's here. Are you sure hundred percent.
Do you want to do it again? Try it again? Just no but because it could be weighted. So just you or you're
done you're good. Yeah, you're good. Yeah,
okay. Say a number between one and six like pick a number of my 6K that 5 is what I said on the craps table, right, but but I already know that it's a 4.
And the 5 is here. Basically
that's uncomfortable you do that again.
Probably not are you know will do shop but stop whenever you want. Yeah, because it could be like a weighted. Thy by the way, that's how people cheat with dices. They also take the die and they flip it and they want it to be you know, so it's like you throw the numbers so you said you wanted a 5, right? Yeah good.
Yeah, it's five
can't have food away from me. But fuck is that it's so weird that must be a rush for you though, just to blow people's minds like that all the
time that but seat. So it's not you know, I don't think of it that so what happens is the digital fixation part of like the love of just like learning something new and exciting. That's that's like really the stimulus is like that that fixation almost it's like the meditative thing that you're talking about, but
But as a magician that is performing and trying to make TV shows. It's really difficult because you have to like keep coming up with new things which is that's hard to do. How
did you first get on television? How'd you convince someone to let you try this on television?
Well, so back in those days the only magic that you could see and like I said, it was pre you couldn't go watch it or get it or any so there's no way to see magic and if you were me with a single mother in Brooklyn or whatever how you gonna go? There's no magic show you I never went to a
Magic show so what happened was all those world's greatest tv specials were playing in they were called world's greatest men and I would watch them and they were like the opposite of that they were like not that they were like hard to watch. You know, it was like glossy big like Dynamic and Illusionist is so far away from the whole thing. So I'm like there's nothing magical about all this and then I'm So Okay, I uh, I think about it and I'm like
Like I go to up so but I'm doing magic everywhere all the time some one of the ways I'm making money is I'm going into those fancy restaurants in New York City like those Upper Park Avenue, and I do magic to the you know to the manager to this and I'm like if it can I do magic to the table and it's like what I did to their like do the manager like, oh that's good as I could I do magic to the people eating and I won't ask him for anything. I bought like a nice suit at Century 21 would like $100 jacket was tight.
Of it anyways, so I go up to these tables and that's a hard situation because it's very difficult to approach people that do not want you near them and try to figure out how to win with magic. It's a cop and it's like even on the street wherever you do it. It's like a complicated scenario once a camera comes up it changes it because now that I go he has a camera it's fine. Right but you'd have to walk up to a table of a people Bunch like us were sitting there and some like, you
know sketchy magician.
Kid comes up to us
like a could I show you a card trick and you and I are going to be like nice to him probably but not really whatever out so what I had to learn quickly was like little things that are so important like distance like how close should you be to the table or how far and then you start to really understand the psychology of the magic is way more important than the tricks, right? So if you're too close, you're like over your they don't want you near them. So you write your like they're like, no. Thank you.
Too far away. It's easy for them to say no. Thank you. Right so there's like a balancing point just on where you stand and then who you do the first trick to and then what the first trick is and so by doing all of this. I started to really figure out how to get reactions from anybody really fast so I could walk up to anybody anywhere and just do magic like one time. I was in central booking because I jumped the subway thing. They were sweeping everybody up and there was four guys sitting in the middle playing Spades.
The only other like kid that looked like me it was in there got the shit kicked out of him. Right and I'm like, I'm gonna get my ass kicked because I was with a button-up shirt like, you know anyway, so the guys are sitting in the middle that were playing Spades. I grabbed it at go. Let me show you guys something like take they'll come on key. I grabbed the deck of cards and I start doing magic to the fourth toughest looking guys in the cell right within two minutes, they're erupting and once they're erupting the whole everybody cuz it's essential because you moved here everybody standing.
Go nuts and then all of a sudden the guards are there and now everybody's watching together and I'm like this is what the magic show needs to
be like what whether you're like here
this would be this that
would be young old Rich poor black white,
whatever everyone to see it. No, no, everybody's got a good side. Like there's that I want to show the that people are all the same, you know, like sure there's some that are horrific and do harm but at the core of everybody there's like an innocent kids somewhere. Maybe got really far.
Lost in Magic just pulls that out of people mmm, you know, and and that's why and the people say oh well, how could you do magic sir? I do magic to anybody because whether it's like visiting underage kids in prison that like you don't know what happens them and you see them come walking up with their eyes down. They don't want to look at you that because they don't like anybody there. That's Authority right? That's what ruin their life and then as soon as you do these tricks suddenly. They're like little happy Sweet
kids you get up you get that
That's what and that's what magic did originally to my mom. Like I would do it to her and she'd be like reacting and even if she had a terrible day, you know, she was working three jobs. It was a this made her happy. Wow, that's that's a
cool origin story that and it makes sense that that feeling that you get like when you show someone like in like the car trick you did in the other room and everybody's like, oh that that.oh, the oh that you get out of people that that Rush that's that that is because at that moment no one's thinking of anything.
Thing else at that moment. They're like, what the fuck? How did you what by the
way I've walked many times when people are fighting about to erupt into big fights. I walked into the middle of those fights started doing magic in those fights. No, I know but and then the fights were
done Don everybody's like what you want to hear the funniest not magical magic. Sure. Sure.
Okay. So after the TV show come that stuff like that I get more known by the way, so world's Gracie, but then I was like, okay, let me do the opposite of that so I called it.
Street magic sunshine to come up the lowest name. Like I wish I could come up with Seca expectations
as low as possible because world's greatest that you see like that so I cover up do like card
tricks, right? But anyway, so I'm like driving with my friend that his what are those those smart cars in New York and it's like the coldest day in New York. It's like for reasoning like a February like 12 degrees out type situation and we're stuck at a red light.
And there's a car with these four people outside of it and there it could see they're like struggling like they couldn't get the door open. So they realize they and they didn't they lost their keys. They couldn't figure it out. They couldn't get into their car. Right, but I know that that's not what's going on like it's freezing. So I understand the situation so I could Doug stop one second and I woke up next to these this group walk up to the car pull the door open, but I like it made it look like I'm just pulling
But I was giving it for the door opens up. It looks like I did nothing it did I get back at the card leave it I could they
go backstage. The guy is like the best trick ever did but it was just opening up the door the
Frozen night because I knew that it was just frozen but that's the same as what magic is right? Like it's like and went yet so that and the whole so that there's a book called Magic and Showmanship was all about like what makes magic effective and it's called like the ham sandwich. He says if you just said reach
in her pocket right now, there's a ham sandwich. That's a good trick. But if you were like man, I'm hungry. I would love a hand sandwich and I had already put it there and I'm like reaching your pocket and then there's that's real magic. So
it's just context that's where it's so baffling because then people walk way how the fuck that he knows going to say ham sandwich like the folded car that you somehow another shoved into Jeff's wrist into his below his watch. We're all what I mean. I know there's
Something to it. I don't know what you're doing. But that oh the result the oh is pretty pretty phenomenal. But in that moment, no one's thinking of anything else. Yeah, but
it is followed by a short know but there's also a lot of people that are trying to figure it out. Yeah. There's
also still going on. They're not fit even if the trying to figure it out, they're not thinking of anything other than that trick right moment something. Yeah might be trying to figure it out, but they're still they're not thinking about I gotta feed the dog another they're thinking about them.
They're like good friends about them do magically like see it another way. Yeah, we can all get a to accustomed to things. Yeah. So you you first get on television you first do these things and then you are magic involves and your magic goes from being just magic to some of the more insane things. You've done like standing in a block of ice for how long did you do it for seventy sixty
three hours successor. I'm always late. So I showed up late.
So I've missed like whatever the length of time I was supposed to do. So that's all but I'm always late. I made it here on time though, didn't I? You are early. Yeah. Yeah, perfect. But Brad, I rode the motorcycle here in was flying because I had to make I wanted to be on time. So I flew you were on time.
Yeah, the ice thing why would made you decide to stand in a block of ice cream 60 plus hours else. I'll
tell you that the so you were saying how do you go from the magic tricks like to these for the stream physical endurance and so studying the dino?
All that stuff and then there's a poster of Houdini that I loved where he was it was he was buried alive, but he never did the stunt he died before he got to do but he was going to be buried alive underground in a coffin. So I stare at I love that poster since I was a kid. It's like in the magic books. You see that poster. Yeah. And anyway so bill again, the guy I told you about Bill coluche comes up to me and he's like, what about this and he shows me an image of an Indian fakir that was buried alive for a month. He's like what if you pretend to be buried alive in Central Park will sneak you out and you'll come back.
A month later and I was like, I always wanted to do like dini like things in the but I never want to copy but that one he never did. So I was kind of like well, that's interesting. But what if instead of doing it the way he did it? What if I did it and everybody could see that I was buried alive. So what if I was really just buried alive like it can't be that hard. He's like, yeah, you can't do that and I was staying at his place. So we got a coffin from Queens where actually Houdini was buried I bought a call from we brought it back to his house.
House and then I would just practice sleeping in the coffin then suddenly. Yep. I know but then suddenly I realize you don't eat food and then if you have a little thing to go to the bathroom, I did four days like nothing so I'm like, okay I can do week and that was it and then then I push the idea of doing the buried alive and convince people to let me do it publicly and what's funny is like firemen and stuff like would come to the stunts in the middle of the night and they would shine like Holograms at me and their lights and stuff and they are that's the ice but and then they would assume that I wasn't actually in there.
Okay, so here it so back to this lab
well, but let's go but let's not jump around. So the Buried Alive thing. Yeah, where did you do it physically
where it was in New York City on the West Side Trump had like this bunch of properties that it was developing and I was like, I want to be buried alive. I'm one of your properties. Is that possible? He's like sure he just sent me his driver and I went around and that's what I did my first thought and it was how could they see you though? And then Jimmy middle and there what do I do?
Who like others? Yes, it was see-through, but right now and then we put six tons of water on top of it. So that's basically it and then so I was there and how you getting on that there was all see those two big holes. So the oxygen was being see the holes above my head. Okay, so the air was being blown in and out but it's pretty straightforward like it. That one's not to me not that impressive. Like if I said to you just laid there for a week. Yeah, but you know what the harder the hard part I mean story body and we lose a nose, but the
The hard part of it is and you wouldn't you would never anticipate this being the hard part, but if you're not used to like peeing while standing in front of lots of people staring at you, it's actually really hard. So it's like being buried alive and I had two truckers to bond and all that stuff which is like a con with a catheter whatever uh, and and people are there the whole time like it suddenly became like an event and so there was never like and I was they were like, oh well cover it. So no one can see them like know then people are going to think I'm sneaking.
In and out so I had to learn so I would close my eyes like when you were a kid sleeping if you'd have those dreams, I'd matches it would it would take me hours. I finally be able to pee right but that and by the way didn't eat for a few weeks before so I had no food set was the other was an issue. But um what happened by Midway through the stunt people I'd be waving and smiling and it's
like pee
it was like nothing, you know, these are things that you don't consider when you're practicing in your Ralph and
In your
house, so you didn't eat for how long two weeks
before? Yeah. Yeah, but I was always into fasting I read Siddhartha is a kid and I had done like a week with just water and you know new all that new the body's really good with that.
So you were comfortable with the fact that you were able to fast and that wouldn't be an issue. Yeah, and you were comfortable with the fact you were getting are and where you drinking water from how you getting water.
I had like a little bit of water in there that I could suck through a thing like that and that was fine. It was like
It was enough how much water you think you drank over the week that you were in there. I don't know. They always say it was like just a little bit but it was a good amount was like, I don't know probably.
Probably three liters a day or something else. Okay. Yeah, it's real they say he did tablespoons or but no it was it was it was like a normal amount so that by the way, it did 44 days with nothing but water and I did nothing but pure H2O. So it's not even like it had minerals in it and body was full recovery and my starvation expert who's like one of the top guys in the world in London my doctor at the end thought that I was cheating so they put me on and I spilled water
it was a company called
H2.
Oh and they're things that's just pure yet. This
exact just tilt right so heads right
which which is irrelevant by the way, but so I had nothing but pure H2O 444 days lost 60 pounds BMI body mass index dropped signature 33% Yeah people cancer. That's what I was gonna get. No. No, it was bad. No, it wasn't good. It wasn't good. But doctor thought I was cheating because he's a magician by the way, my friends that were with me that are you know magician.
And the guy building there like you need to take these vitamins and they hand me a handful of sugary vitamins and I'm like, no, it's just because I if I'm going to do what I wanted to like actually do it, right and if I would have taken those vitamins, I feel like my metabolism wouldn't have gone into starvation and I might have had irreversible damage from so the fact that I actually did it. I went into starvation mode in the body protects itself doesn't but what I was saying is the starvation expert that now I have a paper published in the New England.
Journal medicine with them which I'm pretty proud about but he he didn't believe me. So he put me on an IV and right away the phosphate levels reacted and I almost went into shock. So I almost actually did die when they refit fed me so his papers called the refeeding syndrome. They say like after World War II when they rescued the from the from the camps the Jews and everybody was starving the camps and they a lot of soldiers gave them like candy bars and stuff and all of a sudden our systems went into shock and they died from not being
we fed the right
way. So what is the correct way to refeed someone that they haven't eaten the you
have to slowly bring them back so that you don't have what happened to me was just phosphate levels go all crazy. So very small amounts of food. Yeah, but then two days later I somebody sent me a trunk from Harrods full of food in loaded like a Fred Ed and I was giving it to all the nurses and doctors because I knew I shouldn't eat it and I was trying to write them like in the middle of the night. I woke up and had like a bag of potato chips, right and then I'll
Bagel or creatures and I was wrecked. It was like the most pit. I also didn't go to the bathroom for a month and a half what think about that.
So how long does it take you to recover from one of these things
that what I feel like I never fully recovered from but like oh
And I wouldn't recommend anybody does that like goes like super super long with no food, but but by the way, so the recovery, you don't think you have a recovery. I'm just my body always goes like this. Now. It's always confused when I like train I go up down really quick really easy and it was since
that so as your your body freaked out because when it's like yeah,
I feel like that, you know, but there's no way to prove that but that's a
common thing though with people cut weight for fights. Really. Yeah, they get to a certain point. They have kidney failure and yeah, yeah, yeah.
And
that's what exactly that's what happened to me and I keep having problems with my
kidneys. Yes. Yeah.
Yeah, and I have a spot my kidney right now. Mmm.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's a real common one with guys Daniel Cormier. I actually had to drop out of the Olympics because that I didn't know this kidneys failed. Yeah. Kidney failure is a big one with Fighters kidney stones to for a lot of guys would come wait. So your that was probably in your opinion the one that damaged
You the most or left the most residual to the
most difficult one was the ice by far. The The Ice was a monster and the reason why was because and now there's also something great about it. So it was a warm November so they are coming through was like, you know, it happened to be a 68 degree three-day spread which led to the ice keep dripping the cold on me and it's radiating this way, but I'm also standing up in one spot completely still.
Can't sleep because if you fall asleep me present to ice you get frostbite, you have to cut your skin off, right? So I'm staying completely awake the entire time and it's a difficult situation on our 55 exactly our if I look back at all of it. My friends knew my eyes just go out and I'm now hallucinating like you could never ever there. No hallucinogenic drug will ever give you those kind of hallucinations. And what was it? First of all, it's amazing.
I'm but it's also when it goes into that Nightmare part it's scary. But there's also that amazing part of it. And if you have people are after that stunt now whenever I hallucinate on stunts I have friends there that I say, I'm going to start hallucinating just talk me through it. But so here's when I started realizing that I was hallucinating because you don't know when you are right. And by the way, the one stunt and ever did was sleep deprivation, if you remind me I'll explain that whole thing, but I will forget but so so what happens is
When I started realizing it is I need to know like what time it is because I'm done it 10 p.m. Because it was live on ABC. So I'm like, I need to know how much longer I got to go through. This like is it's get tough. So and it's there the glove by the way and my doorman would come and like news or whatever Fox News said David Blaine is not really the I think did a special on it an hour-long special on fox saying that I was never in the ice and I had a double of me that was at the ice. I'm switching up and down.
With him while eating burgers and reading box. Yes
how Fox Fox TV station.
Yeah. Yeah, so they did but they did a one-hour special though. I was never in there. So my doorman let me get away with doing I don't know I don't care but listen so much torment my doorman who Cubs this this is the funny part up. So my doorman that comes to see me he's on he knows me so well, he was a buried alive and he's so nice, right so he comes to visit me in New York and he walks up to the ice and he sees
He's looking at me all weird. I wasn't hallucinating it. Look at me all weird. Then he leaves it that but I go back. I was like, what's up? He's like that. Are you sure that that was you and Ice could that have been you as like, what do you mean that he's like? Okay. Well, it's you know, so here we go on that special airs. Now, he's convinced that it wasn't me and I
especially is why you're still gonna know
that's after but he already thinks because he doesn't
leave it my friends my best friends and I was buried alive. They didn't think I was really doing it. They thought it was a trick, right? So so he asked me is like there's no was that really you because they said that you were a double of yourself and you were switching it as like Eddie, but you looked at me like how if I have a twin brother like, where is that identical twin brother it why why would I switch up? So anyway, so back to the back?
That but I get to 55 hours. So I'm looking around and I need the time so go like this like what time is it and the guy goes?
402 yeah, so
exhausting forward to some like okay, that means we have like another six hours or whatever it is. Right, by the way, my time estimations are says like a cat wait, there might have been two of away away away. I wait and I'm indoor it's hard. I'm like things are moving. Everything's weird spiders walking up people are like sitting in the ice. I'm waiting waiting voices are talking to me. I'm talking back to write, but I'm waiting and I'm waiting.
I wait for like a few hours before I ask anybody the time again.
I see somebody and I'm like
in the guy and the guy goes
4030
know
and that's when it all crashed out is like when that when I that connection and then the hallucinations were just rampant in my eyes were all crazy when the drill was when the chainsaw is coming through. I tried to grab it. Yeah, so if they look at that, oh your God, but okay but sudden, but now that I've learned that sleep deprivation is one of the most amazing ways if it's control.
To go to another place. It's like that admit event,
but no one but I want to get to that before we get to that like while you're in there. What are you doing to occupy your mind? Like, how are you? Did you have when you using meditation where you just thinking we just winging it like so okay. So
for some of them what I do a big pop, first of all, yeah, a lot of things you get to your free time to think like there's no phones that distraction so aside from the physical but but the one
Thing that I use with everything is kind of like a breakdown of numbers. I'm like, okay this much. I have to get to this point then when I get to this, but even when I run on a treadmill like okay, I have to get to this point, which means let me get to the halfway point and I'll consider that when I'm holding my breath I do same thing like, okay, I need to get to 15 minutes. So let me get to 7 and I'll start at 7 then at seven. I'm like, okay, I'm at seven left. I forget to another three and a half and three and a half. And then what I always do is whenever I'm training I always go past it. So it's the same thing. So like when I'm running a treadmill
Like if I have to do let's say like, you know 3.1 whatever it is. I set that as my target, but then I always go like another half a mile past it because I won't can't quit before because then you'll be in the mindset that okay, I can stop before so like anything that I do I use numbers to get there I get halfway and then I push the goal further every single time no matter what hmm, which is so it's a mathematical system ironical. So your you don't
necessarily have any sort of meditative techniques. You're just concentrating on the numbers.
Is meditation for
breath holding all the time right time? I do a
breath hold not only
now the ice was kind of like there was like a breathing thing and I didn't really know much about it back then but I was like more like fighting it like what
is it like on your ankles your knees and
your back everything swells up like a demon really bad and all that stuff in the pain is excruciating and unbearable. But yeah, it's I mean you're waiting
and you didn't have any residual effects of that
just my ankles and legs were really swollen. It's for a few days or so longer than that. But yeah.
Yeah,
now has anybody ever tried to break that
I don't know. I hope not and then not because I want I don't care about how I just don't want anybody hurt themselves, but I
would imagine like someone does something so high-profile like you did that that people be like, I'm gonna try
that. I mean, I think it's too weird. So people aren't really like, oh I want to do that
these billions of people I would imagine that someone would step in and try to emulate that obviously was so
I pray not and that's why I pray my daughter never becomes a magician even though
So amazing at it because if she started doing these things I like if she's gonna bump her knee of like I have a heart attack, you know,
that's the problem with being a parent, right? Yeah, the things that make you amazing are your ability to overcome adversity and then you shelter your children versity. You know, it's all my favorite people are all the all came from a very tumultuous childhood. They all came from like turmoil and no one wants that for their child. You want to protect your children? Yeah. It's very
weird. So what other ones have you done? We're like while you were doing it you were thinking what the fuck have I done?
Because you omitted there was one that don't go don't pull this one up don't pull this on.
It was called the dive of death and I
started to get cocky. I done like the thing in London. I don't like the water tank I done so I started to get too cocky right? I didn't have time and ABC wanted to show really quick. I was like, okay, I'm gonna go upside-down for 60 hours 3 days, whatever right as going to be upside down and then I and then I saw some guy.
In a parachute upside down on a tree in Italy and he was in the hospital because he was three days upside down in the tree and I was trying to speak to him. He was like not didn't want to talk at all. And then they were like, it's his situations really bad. So kind of like set the tone before I did the this
situation Julie bad like that from
being upside down for that long. What happened to him? I think he's the blood I think it I think it does II don't know because he didn't I didn't get to ask they wouldn't tell me when he wouldn't also engage in a
It was bad that I know was like in the news it was bad. I don't know what the permanent repercussion but so when I did this thing upside down in New York, I didn't practice it. I thought I could just wing it my stunt guy who taught me to jump off the pole. He's like you can never ever just go Wing something and not dial it in and rehearse and figure it out. You can't just go do it. It's a mule you can't hope for luck. And that was the first one ever and last one that I was like, okay, let me just hope that I can do this.
As soon as I went upside-down remember I said you can never prepare for certain things. Yeah. I had that catheter hooked up in the first time. I peed it just went upside down all over me. So this way and I was like I'm done so the whole stunt with the battle for their that
was like that
was a great Learning lesson because I learned you never just dial it it that you make it through that one. Yes, but it was terrible. It was a garbage stunt. Is that what you were asking me like what things it so that was one that was like, oh, yeah you your but all the others they were amazing the
The team that working with the best people all of and this one is the most amazing. Like I have a team that's the one you doing right now. I have the most amazing. I've never been able to have a team like
this ever loon one. Yes. Okay explain this.
Okay. So I went to YouTube with crazy idea. Who by the way, this is YouTube and they've been a blessing beyond beyond so I'm like, okay, here's what I want to do. Like, I want to grab a bunch of balloons and go floating up into the sky and disappear.
Okay, great. Okay. Sure. Let's so now I needed to assent this is all hypothetical. I'm not like a skydiver like that has a thousand or 10,000 or 20,000 jumped. I'm not a balloon pilot. I've no experience in any of this stuff. I just know that I want to do this and I've wanted to do forever but I had drawings of it made 15 years ago, but now you have to get for real. So there is a guy that flies balloons and there's a guy like lawn chair Larry that went up on Balloons with like a lawn chair and a bunch of beer. That was a
Is Bala City like pop balloons with a gibe you so there are examples so it's not like a complete hypothetical. This one has like okay. So what if I could take the balloons that idea and just have the innocent image of a kid like we all dream of just holding the balloons and drifting up and into the sky. Seriously. What's that? What's that one from?
From whose website? Is that Jamie,
right? So that's that's my balloons.
Is that you up there?
Yeah. We yeah, we did on we did short flights not big in public. We kept it
small. Can I show these to Jamie?
No, I don't know.
Yeah to him and I can show Shawn can show the think I'm not sure and
don't wait. That's my balloons. Yeah. Oh, well that's on but that's that's
the end of him.
That's just
right for this is but I think maybe maybe not and considerate. But anyway, so so, okay, so it starts with just the idea of that but now I have to go get a hot air balloon pilot license. So I go meet with the best hot air balloon pilot instructor and also flyer
isn't that the different situation than a hot air balloon because you don't have the ability to
control you have to first get your hot air balloon pilot license. You have to learn how to fly and land a bloom which is it
Amazing, right? It's like so ab and then you have to take that written test and I don't have time because I'm trying to do so much. So I had to cram study the whole written test in eight hours with a guy helping me. I studied the whole thing went to the airport to the test got that then you need to go get your gas restriction lifted which means because and very few people even ever bothered to do this because who's flying hydrogen or helium nowadays, so I went and met this guy burp adult. Who's the best gas balloonist in the world? He's one that built around
World in 80 Days, he's built every balloon that sun the longest flights and you fly now a hot air balloon. You're like, right you have to control it and it's helium and hydrogen you're just part of the wind. You're literally just floating away and it'll keep going up to eighty four thousand feet until they pop their like you are just floating like no, I can't explain that feeling of floating anyway, so I had to go learn how to fly.
And land hydrogen balloons and use hydrogen because helium's more expensive and stuff like that. Now we have to go test the whole rig so now and at the same time I have to also try to get as close to 500 jumps out of an airplane because I need to be really comfortable in the air if I have to jump out and land. I mean I can say he's right and when you're up at 25 plus thousand feet you don't know where you are, right? So yeah, so now and by the way the video did you
The video I made for you. You didn't see it. No,
you made a video for
me. Yeah, because when you did the thing with post and you'll get and post is like he's not real and you were defending me. I was like not that I was different the hold on. I made a video I sent it to Matt. I texted to I didn't get a video. He didn't show it to you in a video. No, hold on. I made you this video. So this is me yelling from the plant. And by the way, this is after the wingsuit guys jump out of the airplane. So remember I'm also crushing lots of jumps really fast this one.
I ran into a fence and almost killed myself and Luke who's the best in the world that has 25,000 more jumps jump from 25,000 feet without a parachute and landed in a net. I saw it. Yeah, so he's a guy coaching me. So he's the one filming this and he landed at the state troopers Patrol thing because we were so far lost and I ended up trying to make it back almost hitting the trees really really close and then crashing into a fence. My legs are all bloodied up rip through thing flipped over landed.
Fine. I was recently I was like and the reason why is because I was making you this video I complete truth and but I'm going to say that dude. So the make the video I had to wait till the wingsuits were out of the plane because their last right but that means and by the way the conditions you'll see what they were like in a second. So the planes moving really really far away right? Because it's still going that means the drop zone is way over there and I made the video and it was longer than I said it was going to be and then we jump we're like lost in the clouds.
And I see the only
hole so I fly through the
hole and now because I flew through
that hole we're so far
away from everything and I should have followed Luke and went to the state patrol thing, but I was like, no man and make it just back and but so here's the video of Dave you though.
Can we play it for other people? Yeah. Once you are drop a DJ no, yeah.
Okay.
Hold on let me
Here drop isn't that funny though. Pretty wild
but you don't you bummed out that I didn't get this before. Oh, well.
Yep. So I was going to like post it or something. I asked him if I should and he's like well wait because maybe you'll just do the show. So I think that's why he didn't maybe or something. Hmm. Like I don't like, I don't know.
Maybe he got lost in the email or something that might have gotten to one of those that the email dumps get pretty big sometimes the point where I can't keep up.
Is that young James
Young Jamie young James.
Okay, so that's that one, but then I'm going to show you the rest of the shop, but you might have to scroll through it to get to it. But um, I'll show you but by the way, it's the most amazing to so I'll show you the rest of that shot and then you'll see where he landed and where I landed.
I'm going to send you first the pretty version of it. You guys can like cut through or whatever. Okay? Yeah, so I'm going to edit. I'm going to just send you like the full and then go look through. So there's another
one.
When is this one supposed to be in two weeks two weeks? Yeah, and do you have to take into consideration the wind the like what the
curl? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah pitcher. That's why we can't like confirm a location because when it's determined everything so even though now I'm at like, you know, almost 400 jumps the wind still decide where you go here. All right, here we go.
Did you get that other side only got one? Okay, so make sure this is gonna play. Well, that's the first one so we I can kiss are job come back shortly. Okay? Okay. Check this out.
Oh Jesus Christ. Okay, but so you see the
clouds now, hold on. This one's going to
come so you're hanging onto a plane how high you
there? No, that was just silent 13,000 so nothing. No, but I want to come speak know that I wanted $25. I remember you tell me
yeah, but still that's 13,000 feet off the are hanging onto a plane and jump
off. Maybe it's another one. Maybe it's this one.
It's hilarious that you're like, oh it's only 13,000 feet. Hang onto the wing of a plane and I let go on video. I know but
you need to see that I can I can't play here though, right and show you like this we have to air dry because it's going airdrop is better because of Hope first going Silo why I just want to send this one. It shows like how spectacular but I could just ask somebody not as big because it explains what's going on. So hold on now which one because there's three young James the MacBook Pro Jay.
Me but there's three BP doesn't matter is Click one and it should work.
Now when you decide to do something like this, do you get an inspiration and then you consult people to see if it's feasible like well,
how does so that's why I was lucky. So let's sing as I come up with the idea and then I find a guy his name is Jonathan Trappe. He's the one that tried to cross the Atlantic with healing for the balloons. And but I mean he has it's like a full system. He has a basket so it's like a real balloon.
Like a hot air balloon system with so nobody's ever done it where they just float where their bodies are the basket, you know what I mean? So he had the whole system and then he came and test out I was like, could I go try it like this and he's like no, we're not ready. You'll kill yourself or whatever you're hanging onto the Rope. Yeah, but I'm going to make sure that I'm not going to have a parachute on and I'm going to I'll have a system so I'm completely secure so I'm not going to fall off but I'm not going to wear the parachute because I don't want to be I want it to look like it.
It just holding onto balloons. So like that visuals important part so the parachutes up in the balloons, but once I get above like a thousand feet or so I'm going to put the parachute on are
so you gonna put the parachute on wire up
there. Yeah, man. I want to see if how high I can go see
how Betty I think you can go.
Well, so the highest thing on earth is Mount Everest, right?
So that's kind of my goal, but I have to be careful because if you if you if you don't come back down you're dead. So if you can't get down from there, that's that zone is like the death zone. So from like 25,000 to 30,000 is very very dangerous. You can black out like this. So I'm going to do a couple more hypoxic test and see if I'm right. I'll have emergency stuff up there Like Oxygen if I need it, but I
don't want clothes around with you up
there in the balloon.
Yeah, we have like the way it's
not dude your loved ones panic when you start plotting things like
this. My daughter asks question. How old is she nine and she has great questions and the plate that tail number the play is for me and her so it's and for number but nine for her age 47 for my age and then DB for me and her we're both destined David Blaine, but which is the balloon that has I made you this has to be a registered.
They're crap. So we had to get it registered. We had to fly it up. We had to prove that. It's completely safe. We had to land it with nobody on it. So the body one time that I went wasn't me? It was sand wait exactly what I weighed. We had to remote dump the sand we had to use squibs to remote pop the balloons fly it over and this is at 22,000 feet and fly
it. What is it? What is control knob ssibly but is it radio?
Yeah. Yeah, exactly and I have the whole team helping me that did like Alan Eustace when he jumped and Felix baumgartner's
Partner when he jumped from the edge of space. So we have donned a the best meteorologist that he possessed
a great you before you get on its
precision. And then so we had to fly it all the way up to 22,000 feet as proof that this aircraft is actually completely doable and then remote land exactly where Don they predicted we were going to land and we've done that multiple times. We flown it. We've deployed the the imitation I've flown that's I'm out of
time involved in constructing.
In one of these things and
orchestrating it time and team and yellow team is everything so it'd be like you when you have like the best trainers if you had like your five best in the world, like tweaking you before fights
like that. So when you plan on doing something like this, did you bring this up to these folks? These are the first people the people that you're doing it with these are the people that you brought it up to the first time. Yeah. Nobody said get the fuck out of here with
us. Nope went straight. So YouTube and
It's like I have this point
these guys and they hesitate at all know there are amazing that that's crazy. It's one of
right it is all so crazy because it is just a hypothetical idea. That's insane. Yeah true and they did let me like but there were stages. I had to prove each step side to prove that. Number one. The balloon is doable number two. I'm not going to hopefully kill myself number three. I can actually get the Joe and then for the sky dives by the way because I had to get 500 jumps really quick and this
Is all during the last year, right? So Insurance wouldn't cover that. I mean they would cover but it's not affordable.
So I had to do five almost
five hundred four hundred jumps or so with no insurance, you know, so that's a whole separate thing that's not related. So I had to go do them from my own as fun and do everything through my own you
see Theresa is
crazy. It's all nuts because it's because he think of scything think like, oh you have the best coach is fine, but there's still like when you're trying to do 15
They it's like you can do what I did which is try to avoid hitting an airplane in the hangar and turn to low-income walking down and like did you come up with this idea? I mean, I think it was like inspired when I was a kid. I think like the idea of like the little boy drifting right balloon. So I think it was like but I never really thought of it as a reality but then 15 years ago or so I had drawings made of it. So I started having trouble show you the drawings. I can't open it on there without so when
did you put it into motion?
Like it was never even possible until YouTube said okay will back this because the idea is like all of my other stunts. There's like the budgets pretty very, you know, not you couldn't afford to do something like this. This is to build test the flight build an actual aircraft fly. It landed get all the jumps learn how to do everything get all the skill set have this so this is but that's the first drawing. Oh, wow. Yeah.
So you drew this when you were hiding draw someone
Yeah marks that's news an amazing artist that did my poster for this thing, which I'll show you so that would
send this to Jamie.
Yeah, it's not working, but you can try their jobs not working and I was some weird was happening when he's trying to do it I can but maybe the picture will go. If not, I can restart the phone and maybe it'll work.
Was it shown up for you? Jamie?
No, right. Let me restart the
photos a lot of okay. Now it says it's waiting.
There's like so many MacBook Pros. Yeah, those three out when
yeah, someone went through. Okay, then I'll also send oh but wait so shy also show you the poster that I had made which was okay.
So you come to YouTube powerful YouTube they come up with the side. I mean, they're really different.
That's the original but this is the latest one. So you send that one to
him, too.
I'll send it to you Jim.
It's coming through right now.
Supposedly, I think it's like I have to accept them for some reason doesn't just go.
Is it showing up for you know,
I think I should restart the phone because those videos to I want to send I guess. Okay. How did you get it to go the which one did you
press? I don't know. There's so many of them doesn't make any sense. Your phone is being monitored by the government. They're cloning all that one. Hold on.
I want try to send this video so I could explain making your video for it's possible.
What did 100 now it's preparing its own? Okay, beautiful.
Now it's going through have it coming right now.
Because it says it's converting so might be coming except on this.
Okay soon as I get that so you bring this to YouTube on how long ago was it?
Okay year and a half ago or something like they say
yay. Let's do it. We're fucking crazy. Yeah, and also it's probably going to have a hundred million people watch it. So it seems like I don't know. I don't know about that. Oh, I do. Yeah. I don't know it'll float around and fucking balloon. I don't know if that's true. I'll bet on it. But this one by
far is my favorite that I've ever done. It's the most visual the most colorful and it's the first one that I've ever done where
Friends are like I want to do that. We're not like why do you do that? These other video holding on you know, all the other sense that do people are like like that's it's great that you're doing it, but that's crazy or why you doing it this one? They're like, I want to ride the
balloons because it's such a childhoods. Yeah
there. Yeah like this it'll be like that. Wow, that's pretty cool. So it'll look just like that and
all it. How is it are you
harnessed? It's like a yeah, it'll be like a little thing that connects it my wrist which
each like the way the hmm are real is have a
condition. I have a connected to your body your torso
somehow. Yeah, it'll be connected someone in crotch. Yeah, hopefully like nightmare. Yeah something yeah, because when you get up to like - you know, 20 degrees or whatever you'll be non-functional up there. So right you can't just rely
but you can't really rely on your hand. You know, I could not no no, no. No,
I was practically if I had to do this up to like, you know, two to three thousand feet I could because he's holding on yeah.
Yeah, you can assess and you can also do what you know, just put something around your foot like the the wires could come
down. Okay, so something around your foot would be so just taking the weight off to help.
Yes, it's doable, right? And then in the
basic can you actually hang though?
Like I mean, it's
really hard to hang really more than a couple of
minutes. It's hard to hang for more than a minute think like the record is like two minutes. But what with one stone yeah with one hand. Oh cut. This has to look the whole that this has to look like the one hand advantage of the
Influence he has to be exact. So right you'd have to have some freaky
forearms Popeye. Yeah, so I have
assistants bill but so I won't have a parachute or any of that stuff. That'll be above me. So it'll look really clean but I'll be supported now if there's a balloon failure or something like that, obviously, I'm in trouble obviously, but once I get the parachute on once I get to 5000 feet then we know okay, he's not going to die. He has a parachute on I can get away and now the Big Challenge
How high can you go? So once you get how are you going to know? Do you have an altimeter on the I'll
have an altimeter but I'm also going to have a clue communication. Okay, full everything. Okay, I'm gonna have cameras with me for the
using a watch for the altimeter or like what do you
use it I'm using this one called the kunu right now, but it's optional. No, but I was I've been jumping with soon toes and things just to check how accurate they are. They're not bad. They're like off by like 200 feet.
Or something like that, but on the landing, you don't want to be off, you know, especially if you're like me, you don't even you only have 400 jumps not even right. So and your landing and I see areas because you don't know where you are.
Right? So gust of wind getting throw you hear
their yeah anything but you also have to like not hit a power line or a building or an obstacle or anything wherever you are, right? If you link if you come down into a mountain you're gonna whack into that it looks flat from here, but if you didn't adjust your going to come in hard and that's it. You'll eat it right if you hit a power line.
I'm your dad. So yeah, those types of things we have to like and which is why when I'm controlling the balloons and going up and up and up and up and up.
I'm gonna hopefully be five hopefully scaring the shit out of me already. So at 5,000 feet you how do you get the
parachute? It's up there and the balloons and I'm going to pull it down. It's on like a fishing wire thing. I pull it down and then I put it on that's the only like really difficult thing is pretty done this
right you've practiced that aspect I would
price it and that's like really scary to everybody around. Oh, yeah, like they're asking me why won't I just wear the thing like everybody? Yeah. They're like you
You have to wear it and you don't want to wear it. My brother's really obsessed with it. My daughter's new questions. How come you're not wearing the parachute, but but I'm telling her it's
fine.
But you haven't have you done this transition yet where you go from floating to putting the parachute on know
that will be done live the first time. Oh, geez, this whole thing will be done the first time live and I've never done it in complete. I've done all of the elements of it. So I've done the jumps. I've done the balloon flights. I've flown the rig but I've never put it all together. That's all going to happen for the
first time little LA Live on YouTube and so once you get the vest on once you get the
The parachute on then the goal is to see how high you can get up. Yeah, one second part that I'm obsessed with when you get to the area of 30,000 plus
d. Nah. Nah, nah, he can't cross there. I mean, I just want to get the goal is if I get up to like 25 thousand feet, I'm excited. Okay, because that's where the ice I want to disappear. Like I actually want the visual to be that I disappear into the sky.
Okay, so you get up to 25. I'm not gonna kill myself doing it.
So
Not I won't. Okay,
I believe you but this one is different than I have the O2 things. By
the way, you can't send the O2 pulse oximeter signals down. So they won't know if I'm hypoxic, but I'm going to have the O2 monitors in my pocket. I'm gonna put them on I'm going to show them to the camera. They
can still communicate with you yet home. Now if
they can't that's a big issue so of communication fails then this is for me communication is done through what RF this this incredible guy that builds all of the communication forever.
Skydiving Stun movie. So he's
the same way little plane can communicate with the
ground. Yeah. Yeah, it's something. Yeah, and I have have a transponder up here. I've everything so the planes I'm visible. Everybody knows where I am. Okay. We're clearing everything with the fa the ATC. So everything is going to be you know, completely organized as it needs to be we have a wind path in every location that we're going to possibly do this in of course New York is a dream and there's some other dreams that we have. So will you know this
Still we have a couple of key points that were dreaming about doing this and depending on wind and weather. That's where we'll do
it. How do you get how do you descend just let go of some use to just completely release myself? Yeah. So you're going to skydive at 25,000 feet. Yeah, by the
way, when I did the when I did the I told you when I did that test when I went up to 20 almost 20 24/7 or whatever. I had the helmet on the first breath. I took the entire.
Tiger thing was ice right away. So and I was flying down looking through like a little hole in the house the helmet. Yeah, I couldn't see
Jesus Christ. And so when you land you have to land, I mean, you're from 25,000 feet. You have to make sure that you're conscious you have to make sure that you can
see that's right. But usually by the way, even if you are hypoxic and you're dropping you clear up it like 10,000 feet, so Luke aikins.
Ian's the who you watch he did a jump once where he was jumping with Felix Baumgartner who we train and he was out of he was hypoxic. He was blacked out but when he got to about 9,000 feet or so he woke up and then from yeah, but from 9,000 feet down you have you know, 40 seconds to figure out where you are and what you're doing.
Okay, it still seems fucking terrifying and so then you're
Floating down and you have to find a good spot to land and when you going to do this, like what's the official launch date? Is
it August 31 hundred percent depending on wins
depending on when it so if the winds are fucked on August
31st at the ocean. Yeah. Exactly. And that's the other thing YouTube's been amazing up. There. It is David
Blaine Ascension YouTube Originals, August
31st. Yeah. That's basically
what is I love that YouTube stepped up to do this.
Yeah. It is amazing. It
is amazing. Look at you floating above the cloud that image and that's literally
You're going to be doing that's so fucked.
But also the thing about this one aside from like the technical part of it is like the visual on it. So far is my favorite
one. Yeah like it up like when they did it with. Yeah, but when I move but when I look
at the balloons, I become like giddy like in all these adults are working on we're all like laughing because they're like little we're like kids playing the lute, you know,
it's like it's like Hanukkah, it's something that every kid is kind of thought of yeah.
Grabbing a balloon and flying Mary Poppins. Yeah. Yeah. Wow man. That was my daughter's nickname when she was growing up, but we called Mary the real Mary Poppins. If she was a real very Papa's if we put a balloon up and we'd always watch it and dream and talk about where it goes and stuff like that.
What is it like for her to when you discuss things? So these days he's
so amazing. I run ideas by her. She's amazing. Yeah. She's Amazed by the way, the reason there's pink balloons of this sort of because I was showing her all the blue.
Ynn's Sheba is there going to be pink and I was like of course is going to be fake and now there's fake. That's a way
wow. Now you have you been doing live shows this whole time or you are you able to
with Co not during covid know but right up to code I was doing live and that I haven't been promoting their anything but it's like my favorite thing because I've been working on the live show for 20 some years and I've never done one until like the last few years like started like
Three years ago the first time I did not which is crazy. Right cause yeah, but I finally felt like I had the right material to make a good show and the show is so it was so it's like I open it with the mouse sewing so the first thing is I could but I bring people up so it's also comical it's like funny right like joking around. So for the you see people like a tree. Yeah
when you say mouth showing you actually so your mouse. Yeah. Yeah, and you do that at how many nights a week one? No.
So I would
do two days on one day off but every day of a show means you can't eat for 36 hours before the show because I also have to put a gallon of water in my stomach. I have to put a cup of kerosene but now I don't swallow the kerosene. I put it in my mouth and spit it so I don't swallow and but on Jimmy Jimmy Kimmel, I drank this stuff and it's like really really that's how the guy died Haji Ali that told you so now I just put it in the mouth spit, but CI and then I do the frogs in the stomach. I put the hanger all the way down the throat to effect.
Buddy's ring I I do the breath hot. I do the breath hold every single night and and then and then I push site and then I have them push an ice pick through my arm every night, which is like you don't want to hit a brachial, you know, anything nerve. Yeah or an artery or anything for so but I and I let them choose a spot by the way. I also brought the ice pick if you do want to see because I I know that you know, it's real but I should
if I believe it's real, but I still want to see it. I haven't done it so I haven't got everybody.
Mightor, really? Yeah, it's going to do it is that would mean I'd like you to do it. I'd like you
to do just to see that it is like pretty
straightforward. Oh, I believe it straightforward,
but I brought one with me and I got the alcohol from the so here is a look at that girl that poor
girl. And so you're stitching about your mouth
exactly. But so see that so what I was able to do with the stage show is I bring people up on stage and I have the cameras at the big screen. So you see people reacting to this stuff. So it's the magic plus the reactions
Get
that hole and this girl's really into it. Look at her. So you do this all the time the stitching the mouth shut I would imagine you would accumulate some Scar
Tissue now, that one's easy, but this one's legit this one I used to do it through the hand. This is the iceberg this one I used to do through the hand and I developed so much scar tissue that like when I move my fingers a certain way I get a shooting pain. So I stopped doing the hands and I switch to here.
Mmm, that makes sense. Yeah, I would I would imagine that would really fuck your hands up.
So wait, but so I might have to sit next to you or something.
If you want me to do this to you. This is going on here. Yeah, I
can come over to your side. Okay? Okay. Okay. All right, but wait don't you need the or you can put those
on I'll just come walk over.
Could I take that thing off
will both be basically talking into the same my no,
but we can do it City. Yeah, but can you put those ones? Uh, yeah, okay.
Jim house Mike work.
So you choose are you want the left or the
right? Let's do the right since it's right next to me.
Okay. Do you want them to come in and see it
as well? No good
enough. Okay. So now this is not a new ice pick and usually I do it with new ones which means this isn't as sharp as it needs to be so it means that push is going to be a little more difficult. I guess.
Why do you like to do this? You see?
To be or are these ones that you give us these pure alcohol? Yes. Yes, I believe
so.
I mean, they're just a standard ones that you
get. Yeah.
Well you want to make sure there's no scent in it or anything. Oh, no, I
want to make sure that there's no bacteria,
right but I mean on the alcohol strip. Oh, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Why do you enjoy this? You seem you're not excited about this.
Well first let's amazing that you can actually do something like this like it's nothing so there's a guy named mirror and die. Oh, can you pull up mirror and I owe you that so mirror and die. Oh, it's this guy and nobody believed he was doing it for real and he would
Take rapiers and he would have them pushed through right through the middle of his body his lungs and everything he would show on all sides and then they would pull them out and he'd be perfectly fine. He and every doctor and say no you can't do that. But so remember when Steve Irwin died, you know why he died? No because he pulled the stingray thing out of his heart the Stinger he pulled it out right? Crocodile,
Sophie if he's kept it in there. He would have
lived right after that a 70 year old man was on his boat.
Boat and a stingray jumped up out of the water stung in the heart and then Stingray was gone, but the light didn't even yeah. Yeah at that isn't that crazy? But the fact that you can actually do this is what's crazy like the body. Can you with your mind you can override it? And then the thing is he got so cocky though that he thought he could do anything and then he ate one of these things he swallowed it killed him, but internally die, but see he got really cocky with kisses.
Like I could do anything
that is fucking insane. So he's is he going through his liver?
He can go through anything and that's what I'm saying. So the seven year old guy that got the stingray to it stabbed him in the heart instead of pulling it out, which it's like a corkscrew. He waited till they with doctors till it beat out the other side and he was fine.
You say wow,
so instead of pulling it out. He waited until what happened
not the doctors waited and with the heart they let it beat out the other side and they slowly let it come out went through his whole body. They could if they would have pulled it. It's like a corkscrew would rip him apart. He would die.
How long did it take for it to beat through
his bow, but I know that the doctors what they did is they let it go through guy
how many times this guy get stabbed left?
That one by the way right there.
That's a safe place. That's like not an issue. But when you go through the lungs and stuff, it's crazy. It look it's great. But this is too much. I don't show it to like too much with a
fucking sword man, but that wouldn't think that one
listen he's but so what happened was he started to get too cocky? He started to think he was fine.
Oh, jeez.
Okay, so just listen to the origin of this trick though.
It's not a trick.
No, but I know
but listen so K origin of this is as a kid. There's that trick where they do needle through arm. Yes, right and it's like the rubber some, you know the stuff and it sticks your skin because it looks perfect. It looks like it's really through your arm. And then they like squeeze blood out of the thing they bright. So I saw that and then I was like, but maybe that's like actually doable like maybe that trick could really be done. So like the same exact trick, but for real
Right, so that's this. Okay. Okay. So you take that. Okay, like I said, it's going to be a little tricky to push through just because the it's usually sharp and this time it's not as
sharp. But how do you know where to do it?
We're gonna pick
there's no particular spot hit an artery. How do I know? I'm not going to hit an artery that on those I can't kill you. But what if it goes he died so you want to just write here anywhere? Sure. What's where do you prefer wherever you want like right there?
Wow! Sure. I don't know yet.
It there where you want do it? Where
you want when you say well sure is where do you liked it to go through? I want
to bottom like know I liked where you were going already a cure. I mean, that's that's fine. But it's okay to go like
through. Well, what do you want me to do?
Yeah, you're going to push
through. Okay, so hold on you hear
ya keep like a straight path. Okay like that. No, it goes straight like that. Yeah, I'd go like that right through ya. Okay ready
slowly. I'm going
slow.
Yeah.
You're looking like see that. Yep, see so it's hard to believe that it's real you keep pushing. Keep going.
Keep going.
Wait, hold on.
Whoo
What happened?
I hit a nerve. She's another spot.
No, no, no, no, come on, man. You got it through another spot yours in the nerve. Yeah, but what if I fuck your arm up, man, and then you can't hang from the balloon and then YouTube's mad at me.
Okay again, Jesus, bro.
Okay.
So by the way honest to God I never go in this direction is which way to go. I always go this direction. Welcome inside the L. I'm just saying of like the of the all the times I did it. I've always gone this
direct you want me to go that direction.
I'm just telling of never
got better. No, so what's the difference? I'm just saying. I've never done it this. Okay. So the ground
breaking. No I'm saying it's nuts.
Well, it's definitely
nuts ahold nurse again. Okay, good know but from the bottom like this like that. Yeah.
And I go again and I would I would try to go like a straight path through like right there. No, I would go like lower and in like just look there. I'm going to ready. Yeah. Okay. Yeah go like that and keep hold on.
Wait wait.
push
Yeah like that like that. That's good. Yep. Want to clean path? We hit something but it's fine. Now. It's like a skin here and I push so you can see it come through push. That's it. See alrighty,
super
unnecessary.
But it
does seem like a magic trick
definitely doesn't seem like a magic trick didn't help
but hold on. There's blood vessels and everything. Yes, there's no
blood. Well. It's a very small hole in comparison to know it's a good sign. There is blood on the other hole. Okay? Yeah, that's cause
it's like you hit something. Uh-huh
and your body's healthy. So it's clotting out pretty quickly. Okay, shall I put it out?
Yeah. Okay, we gotta let it slowly.
cool
That's it.
Okay. So here this is for you to keep I can't say I enjoyed that that was very uncomfortable.
But what's weird to me more than anything is that you seem to enjoy it? You enjoyed the freak out when you
move it. No, I like what I said. I like that. You can override your body with your brain to do things that seem like they're not real. Yeah, like doesn't see, you know, it's real because of what you do to your body, but most people see all the things they're doing think it's a magic trick, right? I think it's a trait like, okay. It's a trick like he's not holding
his breath and you've done that thing with the sword. Will you've gone through your
body? Yeah, but
It was not very thick and it was through right here. I didn't go get the lingo through the
organs like this guy did and no
but I think you can obviously he did
it right and swallowing. This is what killed them.
So he got really he thought he could do anything. So he's like, I'm going to swallow this type of thing and then I'm going to bring it up.
He swallowed it and he couldn't bring it up and then he fell asleep and it ruptured his heart he woke up. They found him cold. Oh boy internal bleeding James Christ.
That is the thing about these extreme Feats, right? Is that your you possibly might be pushing the boundaries of what's physically possible which means you could die like Houdini like Houdini died from getting punched in the stomach. Yeah. How does a punch to the stomach kill you? Well,
so normally it like I had Kimbo Slice punch me in the stomach. Did you really?
Ouch, yeah, and then he I had him do it again. And then I felt bad. I don't want to make him keep doing it because it wasn't you know, but because you know, you can train to take a punch. Yeah, obviously so I basically had my trainer Rich Beretta throw heavy balls kicked me in the stomach do everything and I trained for a long like a year just to take a punch from anybody and oh, yeah,
Ken's Kimbo boom. Oh, then I was
like and then I said to him do it again.
So and by the way, I'm not even in top physical. So I said do it again and then I but I could have obviously could be kept going. So boom and I did that based on Houdini. Right? Right. So but here's the thing. So Houdini would do this on stage every night and it's a it's a great thing in the show. It's like look Baba every any 10 strongest people knowing he's come Poncho. And so the end these kids think he's invisible Invincible right like he could like this is Houdini Man of Steel, whatever right? So he's sleeping in his dressing room these two
It's kids one kids like watch out stronger than a punch Houdini in the stomach really on asleep. Yes, and as you know, that's dangerous because you don't have a wall up so he ruptured something but he's a workaholic so the guy is in a lot of pain whether he might maybe it wasn't related. Maybe it's something different. Maybe he had, you know pendous at who knows right? He's in a lot of pain, but he wouldn't let the audience down so he wouldn't quit his show so he did his show in at the end of show. He's upside down the water tank everything else when he shouldn't have been
He should have been in the hospital. But instead he did the show that night collapsed it on. The stage was not from the water tank. But right after the water tank was rushed to a hospital and died in the hospital.
And what was the diagnosis? What did he die from
walls aren't you know 1926 right little Voodoo. They don't
ya wow. So when you mean that that's the thing about someone who does something that pushes it to the edge like that. I mean when someone sees you
Your breath for 20 minutes what's fascinating about is not just that it's hard to do but that you might die. Yeah,
right. Yeah. Yeah or some people say oh, but what's how's he doing it? Right? What's the trigger? You know, so there's all different interpretations.
But the worry the thing that Thrills
people. Yeah. It's like the you know that well, yeah the idea that something could go wrong. That's why everybody watched Evel Knievel because he might like white on and he often did like that. But Spike. Yeah,
what do you do?
This thrill of getting to that edge is very dangerous, right? Because you keep
pushing there was a danger but I feel like if you rehearse and practice and put the best team and don't just do crazy things without like a plan then I feel like the danger is like Shore the dangers there but also rode my motorcycle here, which is also stored in I've lost a lot of friends on bikes. Yeah, right. So sure I get what you're saying and I understand all that you seem to like thrills.
Well, I mean, I like Adventures you
like riding motorcycles yells a venture. That is an adventure. Yeah, it's I mean I look at people to do it every day and I go that's a
brave remembers how horny you're allowed to like we've so that's that's kind of amazing. You
can't find me like ahead. Give it a shot fucking you're here. You know, how where do you see this? Do you have like a grand vision of your life in terms of like these stunts that you do like?
Do you have like some ultimate threshold that you'd like to get to
we have to take a break? I want to make sure that I'm okay. Okay,
maybe bleeding. Yeah, we'll take a break. We'll be right back. All right, so we had to clean up your wound. Yeah, it was fine. Yeah, you seem to enjoy it you really do if you were laughing while they were cleaning it up and checking it and like it's good. We're good. There's just what was it the blood what was it?
It was bothering you.
He's drinking all the water prepare
for swallowing a frog I just felt, you know too much of the magic becoming
real. Mr. Magic. How much water do you have to
drink
probably do what you want to do? Oh, we'll
see mmm.
What's up, do you have to drink it as a certain speaks? I've seen people that can chug. These they just shove the whole thing down their face. It's almost like a magic trick in itself. They can drink it. And
yeah, those guys are just cause I had like the guy that was the fastest work on it with me.
But how many do you have to drink you've drank three so
far? Yeah plus the two out there. But
yeah so fives you have to drink eight total.
Do you need a bucket or anything to throw the Frog up in do we have a bucket ice bucket? That doesn't seem like enough fluid though bucket. Can this of American flag bucket in the back that big one?
Oh, perfect.
Oh, look at that how convenient this poor frog has no
idea. He's a magical frog how do you know he's
real hmm. He's
real. Well, you don't know that could be a magic
trick. Well, if it is, it's amazing. You should sell these two people that don't want biological frogs like a fucking life, right? I mean, he's looking at me. He's moving around. He's bobbing his head. He's trying to get the fuck out. He's making the thing with the throat. Where do you look at me trying to get
That's a real frog kids. No doubt.
When did you start doing this the Frog thing? It's not enough.
Was it overflows? There's a guy called.
There was a guy called the human aquarium and it's so the thing about most of the acts that I'm doing by the way like night after night. Usually the people that did them it was like their one acts as one guy called the human aquarium and he was a guy could swallow frogs and bring them up and he would do it you'd see him swallow them and then you'd see him bring them up. So it wasn't magical was like a skill set. I would usually what I do is I put them in my stomach keep them in there for like two hours and then bring them up and freak you out right see and I'd have a gallon of water my
X I have an aquarium that baking soda gets rid of the acid no food 36 hours. And then once I drink this where it account where four liters so just under ago
so so did you not eat for 36 hours in preparation for this? Yes.
That's a lot of not eating for this poor frogs. Worst moment of his life was poor little dude, Jamie just in case you don't think he's real.
He's real. Oh, there's more than one in there. Now. That's just him. It's just a lusion.
I thought there was a little one there.
It's a decent-sized frog too by the way. I wouldn't want to swallow frog that
large Mark. Twain has a quote. He says eat a live frog first thing in the morning and nothing worse could happen for the rest of your
day.
By the way back to the James Nestor book The One yessing deep was sent me talks about that's really amazing, which is in one of my favorite Parts in there. He talks about how Coral communicates can I read this thing? I sure.
Yeah, sure.
So he talks about it's one of my favorite things. He talks about it. So amazing. So, let's see where deep Okay, so,
like a bunch of notes
what happened you using to read
from iBooks just because you can keep all the books there and
you highlight things. Yeah with iBook. Yeah, of course, I didn't know you
can hello. Yeah. Yeah and then keep all of your books here,
right? I know I do that on my phone, but I didn't know you can highlight.
I've rarely read on the phone to I usually use the Kindle.
Yeah, I don't only use this is the thing. I like live by so it's like ruined my life, but also also had helped that somehow I guess some way let's see I'll take me second pull it
up. I just like the Kindle because it looks like paper,
you know, the paper white ones. Yeah, and they're yeah and they're easier on the eyes is yes that Ricky's on the eyes as well.
Okay, so I said can I just read a LOL? Yeah. Okay. So that's part of what the Aquanauts on Aquarius are trying to find out. They're also trying to crack the more mystical Marine riddles like the secret behind corals telepathic communication. This is so crazy would be right to it every year on the same day at the same hour usually within the same minute corals of the same species, although separated by thousands of miles.
suddenly spawn and perfect synchronicity
The dates and times vary from year to year for reasons only the coral nose stranger still while one species of coral spawns during one hour another species right next to it waits for a different hour or a different day or a different week before spawning and synchronicity with its own species distant seems to have no effect. If you broke off a chunk of coral and placed in a bucket beneath a sink in London. That chunk would in most cases Spa
At the same time as other Coral of the same species around the world, which is crazy. Like you could take a piece of coral break it off put it in London and another call of the same species will in synchronicity spawn at the exact same time from have no idea why the synchronous spawn is essential for Coral survival Coral colonies must continuously expand outward to thrive expand outward to thrive to remain healthy and strong. They must breathe outside of their genes.
people with neighboring colonies once released to the surface the coral sperm and eggs have only about 30 minutes to fuse any longer any longer and the coral eggs and sperm will either dissipate or die off researchers have found that if the spawning is just 15 minutes out of sync Coral colonies chances of survival or greatly reduced Coral is the largest biological structure on the planet and covers a hundred and seventy-five thousand square miles of the sea floor and it can communicate
Way far more sophisticated than anyone ever thought and yet Coral is one of the most primitive animals on Earth Coral has no eyes no ears and no brain Gracie. It's insane. Yeah, that's what I thought it
was you but it's fascinating to that. You just have no idea why or how
I mean, what is the what's the mechanism for their communication the fact that if something's under a sink in London it syncs up with coral the same species on the other side of the planet, like what is happening
like one of the most futuristic minds of our lifestyles is Jim Cameron, I think like
Avatar and Terminator 2 would like the machines taking a little while. Yeah. I truly he's like is that I
think we're gonna look back and be like, wow, he really predicted a
lot. He knew some shit the trees all
communicating with each other.
Yeah,
well you've if you've read about the mycelium and the the fungus underneath the soil that actually the trees utilize it through the root structures and they communicate through that.
Yeah, there's some sort of there's some sort of a micro rise of relationship that fungus has with with these trees and they actually somehow or another communicate through each other as well. They're like using the soil like this. That's crazy. Yeah would think of soil is being dirt? Right? Just but it's there's lots of in there. Yeah all sorts of biological life living that soil. And yes and these trees in different plants actually through their root structure communicate.
And use the use the the fungi that live in the soil and it's very very Paul stamets who's a wizard when it comes to my ecology and and talking about fungus and he's got some amazing work that he's done just his whole life studying mushrooms. It's like and so Advanced when he talks to you about it. Like you just really get this feeling like there's something going on that. We don't totally understand like the largest animal they like fungus is kind of an animal it breathes oxygen.
And breathe out carbon dioxide. So the weather create it is pretty relationship is fungus that mushrooms have with the Earth is in some ways more similar to us than it is to plants because plants are breathing in carbon dioxide obviously and breathing out on you. So the fungus are closer to Funk. Yeah, and they're living with these things and there's a group of fungi. I guess in the Pacific Northwest. It's the largest
Living creature other than I guess like biological organism. You would say was a coral reef, but there's something in the Pacific Northwest. That's it it fucking enormous and it's just one interconnected mushroom structure. Wow. It's very heavy. Yeah, and obviously the right ones can bring you to God the right ones can connect you to alien life and yeah, you know the future and yeah tell you what you're doing wrong with the planet. Yeah. Yeah. So there's something there's something going on with these
things a different part of your
Our
Consciousness but we're just very egocentric and arrogant and our ideas about what the human race means to the rest of the planet because we have this ability to manipulate things and send texts and emails and it's just about our
proportions basically just because our fingers right ability to like,
yeah, but we think that's so important because it's so important to us because it's so significant like the ability to watch a television show or not be able to the ability to fly in a plane or not. Those things are so significant that we think of them as being the most significant things in the world, but meanwhile
Well, there's some animals like like when you see a flock of birds fly in synchronicity and some sort of strange dance and you like how the fuck are they doing there? Yeah. No one knows. They've really don't know nothing. There's all this guesswork. They've not really sure exactly what's going on. How do they know how to travel thousands of miles every season and go back to the place where they spawned like, they don't know. They don't know like how does salmon salmon figure out a way to get all the way back to where they were born?
They make their way all the way through the river to the ocean. And then when it's time to rock and roll they get all the way back and they have to get back to that one spot. They can't get the just any old River. They won't they won't make it they won't survive. They won't spawn. They won't do it. They have to get back to the place where they belong and something in their little salmon brains are in their salmon biological system lets them know and we don't know what it is. We don't know what it is, but we fuck up and we damn these River structures and then they die and they die off of the Pacific Northwest is it they had a huge problem with that?
At and they didn't understand it when they first put these dams in place these salmon would just pull up and they try to redistribute them to other places and they don't like nope. I need to go back to where I'm from. It's weird man biological life is weird and
amazing. It is amazing and funny, right? Yeah. We think we're so
because we can do things that other ones can't do but they can do things we can't do. Yeah, we just don't put a high priority on what they can do. Yeah for whatever egocentric
reason. Yeah, but I was
Sykes swimming in a tonga in the Pacific Northwest and it was with humpback whales and I was with my daughter and we looked at the mother and the calf, you know, I mean, you know swimming we're watching them and it was it's it's the most beautiful overwhelming moment. I'll show you after some footage, but then I was alone.
And I was like holding my breath and kind of freediving next to them. And and you know, when you're not on scoob, it's not they're happy to be around you and I'm free diving and swimming with the mother and the baby.
I'm looking at the mother and I'm certain certain that she's just looking at me but in the nicest way like in the most peaceful, it was just it's not like a shark guy. That's like whoa. This thing is like yeah, so I'm like certain that. She's like being trying to communicate something. So I'm still in the same breath own community and I go like this. I opened my arms up and turn to the
Like this something like that and the mother mimics the humpback mimics me and turns right towards me and goes like this, right so now we're swimming together and I'm like this a kicking I had fins on and the the humpback is doing the mother's doing that to me and I'm swimming in synchronicity with with the mother and the baby's father and then as soon as I'm like done from here and I go back down she goes back down and it was like I wanted to cry.
But yeah, it's like think like I'm gentle dance but also their brains are so much bigger than our but of course are so yeah. I still have all this water in my stomach. So if I'm gonna do this at night, let's do it. So you need another one of those. Hmm.
What is the reason why you need so much water to do this. Is it so that the frog is a place to be?
So the frog is safe for you know, I've never injured a frog or anything.
I'm sure he feels very comfortable knowing that here he goes.
Jesus you hop right out. Okay? Yeah. He's like I know what the fuck is happening here. Hello. Hey buddy.
Okay, so okay. I just usually like to get him get him a little bath. Yeah. Okay. So this is basically the technique and I've put up to 10 frogs inside look so he come.
mmm
anymore
and now we can hang and talk for you know, as long as so, how long does he stay in
there?
What's the longest you've kept them in there and they
live three hours or so and none of them have ever died. Wow,
that's pretty me how bad you have to pee right now on a one to ten anytime anybody complains about needing to pee I'm going to show them this video.
10th 10th water and what do they 8 ounces 16?
It's going to water broke. It's more than a gallon of water. Yeah.
Now it's the magical voice. I got empty.
and after like get him to swim up to the
How do you do that? I don't know.
I just like date and had fluoroscopy keys and looked where they were and then saw that then figure out how to sort. I did sword swamp to like.
Do you feel them moving around inside you
when there's a lot when there's
ten?
Jamie your face
becomes no. No, I got no first like to get a little bit of
He forced them out now.
Can't talk.
Just get some more water.
Was the first time we did this one?
I I worked on it. I started like three or four years ago and it's been a you know, the first time you put the frog in
your mouth that's wrong. I'll overnight and swallow the
first I just wanted to get comfortable with the floor. Salmonella. Yeah, and then I got it again after I tried it the second time and then I built up a resistance to salmonella not know Jesus.
Let me see. Let's get if you like sushi
mouth empty, right?
Here he comes.
This is so bizarre.
Here it comes.
It's because I drank so much so it's like after like located
you have to locate a
kind of.
The sound what would you call this Jamie ASMR?
This is so strange.
So for people that are just listening I highly recommend you go to the video
because you have to condemn
no, no, we're gonna keep this up exactly the way it is people need to say. Oh
Take out like a liter of water.
Oh my God, so strange.
I Spit on biggie
it's called the waterspout. That's I usually put out the fire. Oh my God.
Hold on.
The frog is probably like what the fuck did I do to deserve this? I bet that frog was just like an asshole person in another life.
That's a gallon of
water. Do we need another bucket? Maybe go get that plastic bucket in the back.
The the I don't know if that's good enough, but for now, we'll just use that for now. It is quite Preposterous to watch the amount of water that's coming out of you.
Where's the out right now boy?
Got them in there put them on my hands, okay?
And there he is
little fella
little fellow you've had a rough life, you know that a road. You've had a road Patty. So that's the Frog trick. He's live and perfect. Yeah, he seems fine dollars up. I don't want to lose them. Hey, you want to put it back in the jar?
big little bit of water fresh
Okay,
I'm gonna need more than paper towels, Jamie.
Oh, there is handcuffs here. Oh, you have a pair?
Yeah, Jamie real once I don't know
but is that just coincidental?
No, no. No, there was a guy Ed called Iran. He's a guy I used to work with the Mexican police at the border
and take a few paper towels to actually
he he brought us some handcuffs to teach us how to get out of them, right? Yeah.
Just notice that they were there random is that it seems planned. Yeah,
but that's really they were just here
he gave him to me and he gave me a little tool to show me how to how to open him.
What's this plastic thing? I've no idea.
But he gave you tools to show you how to open them like how I
don't remember but if you go back and watch the video if I ever get caught ever get Hank. Yeah, I'll get the fuck. You showed I gotta pick em, you gotta shove it through the thing to kind of like go past the teeth of the lock to make it open up. So I had to pick them. Yes, exactly.
It's not going to work
we trying to do.
What do you physically trying to
do? I just want to see if I can actually break them break them. Yeah, like break the metal. So like really break them for real.
How do you usually do that? I don't know. You don't
know. It's like really hard to break
was it usually easy to break them. No,
it's always very difficult to break handcuffs because you're breaking the handcuffs, right but you trying
Yeah.
Because there's some sort of technique to it or something using
Leverage.
How many days of your life do you think you spent fucking with handcuffs you just
Boil it all down to time 50.
Yeah, but
this is probably boring for like anybody that's a big.
So you just trying to use the way the attachment as a leverage
Point? Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to use like
like what is the yellow thing?
I don't know
just how Ed brought him to
us.
Hmm. You want
to kick we could keep talking right now. I'm like it gonna be stuck up.
Yeah, but you'll be so preoccupied. Yeah, the frogs are what the fuck just happened. Look at him. He's just sitting there breathing silly. Yeah. Imagine them being a frog like well, this is it. I knew it was coming one day. That's why I'm so scared of Bass.
By the way there. Yeah be these are the ones I get are like normally
Would be like used for bait you're going for it. So I asked the guys I couldn't give me some beer and they became my daughter's pets. So this number of never never ever injured or hurt a frog
but how did you know that that was going to be the case when you first swallowed one the first one you swallowed you probably had to be
like no, I didn't start the fire started with like bingo balls and things like that. I would put I start playing around so it started with like, you know,
so how much water could put in and how could I spout the water out to use it to put out the fire then could the kerosene float on top and I went to
landscape and also bad for you have for you. What is kerosene like inside your body. Do you feel it burning?
No, but like the problem is all that's no the problem is all that stuff has a
residue. What is this guy doing James? Oil-based?
This is the spotter spout thing
Haji Ali Egyptian fire-eater inhuman Fountain. Do you know this
guy? Yeah, that's the guy I'm talking about. Oh, yeah.
Is yeah, he's a boy. There's a really funny clip of see he's spitting the kerosene and then he puts it out with the water which is under me. So
floats on top. Yeah,
look how much control he has saw that act of wanted to like figure that out.
What year is this
like almost a hundred and twenty-five. This isn't a hundred years ago. I mean that guy Hobbs golly. He was called the human fire hydrant that had to be a rough.
If way to go, however, he died because
he probably did that every day whole yeah. Oh, yeah,
forget those three we have to yeah,
we don't need to do a very slippery. So let me get back to the question that I have before you ran off because you got you worried about your arm. Do you do you have like you've done so many insane stunts and so many really of these bizarre things that require so much of you do you do you like have a thing in your mind?
And you have to keep ramping it up and that do you have a place that you would ultimately like to get two of these with these things?
No, I just constantly like kind of try to figure out like what things have been done in the past historically and then I try to figure out how to make them interesting and then I figure out how to make them kind of modern. So it's not like a you know, it's like it's a small step by step process and I think about each thing and then
I try to put them all together.
Do you feel like you have to keep pushing the
envelope? Well, I have like a few things. I've been trying to work on to get to that place. So there is like a it's not a push the envelope. It's just half a bunch of things. I've been trying
to how many do you have on the back burner in the back of your head?
You're like who's more crazy ones that I'm trying to
share them.
The thing I will tell you is if you put them all together, but the letters all equal out like my name so
that
that's all you can say. But yeah, I think that's good. I don't want to go to Intuit.
What do you enjoy most? Do you enjoy running? Like if you
talk about something too much and then you talk it
away. I understand. Yeah, you take away the magic of like what he's gonna he's gonna do what? Yeah, like when it gets announced. Yeah.
You enjoy doing these big things or do you enjoy the live shows or do you enjoy freaking people up just random people out with
magic like all of it, except it's not like one specific thing. I kind of love doing card tricks of doing magic. I love doing things from history. I love looking like the the human aquarium guy, you know the frogs and goldfish and some of that came from Houdini writing a miracle mongers all about his axe. So it's like you look into the history things that have been done like Haji Ali the
Human fire hydrant and you find these there's a great book that Ricky Jay wrote who's amazing magician where he discusses and explains everything learn all these things put them together. And then what I do that Ricky thought was amazing is and and insane is like actually take these ideas that that seem impossible but magical and that's what the amazing part is taking them from a hypothetical image and then learning how to do them. So that's like what's amazing but the whole process to me and Ricky's
Book called learning pigs and fireproof. There's so many bizarre but amazing acts that exists in there. So it's like you look at them like know they can't be real but it was real if you believe it was
real how many of their how many of you are there out there?
Like this must be a very like I always think of stand-up comedians is being a very small group of people the kind of only result in each
other's there's a good amount of amazing. Magician. How many
a thousand
they're on the
planet know there's a lot of guys that are around me. Yeah, and there's different
categories, but the stuff that you're doing is not just magic what I'm saying is like this sort of like the crazy. Yeah, like you're mixing it all your transcending magic and to e go into this weird realm of what I like fall this videos. I like to use the body as the
prop. So I had to do things where like your body is melting and I think that comes from like I didn't have like, you know, a lot of many resources to like, oh go get which is lucky because I was like,
Okay, so what can I do with like what's wrong? Okay, nice big or bunch of water
for as you be industrial. Yeah
now yeah, but like you have to figure it out, but
do you also how do you balance it out with like, I mean you obviously develop some problems from not eating that one time and you know, you've got these stunts where they have this possibility of physically injury
you permanently. Yeah. Yes, I worried about is how yeah risks and the rewards.
Yeah. There's not that many of those.
Those people out there. I hope not. No, that's what I'm saying. Like the people I wouldn't worry about them. You don't worry about
yourself. Well, I think I'm careful, you know, yeah, I'm still like so we did one two, three, four, five six, seven eight nine ten tens five five liters. Basically, that's like a I think that's in one shot. I think that's a record. I don't think I've actually ever done that many you never drank that much water if I don't think so. I
I usually Capital
gallon. Well, it's dangerous right you can die from drinking too much
water intoxication. Yeah, but I think that's if you like flush it out too much about but when you combine that with other things and it's doing so
that's well kids have done like in like for Torrid fraternity when they have to do those hazing rituals right have died from drinking too much water and it was there was a woman in San
Jose. It is possible. Of course
- he was San Jose where she was on the radio and
There was a thing like how much water can you drink it? You wanted to win an Xbox for a kid and she
died? Yeah. Yeah, I think that's one of your electrolyte levels get messed up. Is that what her heart stops were? Yeah, because yeah, so you'll
water become just too much water in your system and your body doesn't know what to do with it. And yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah
and it flushes out and to puts the imbalance off on your
electrolytes. So when you do something like this, do you make sure that you consume a lot of electrolytes beforehand because you know because I can either do it.
If you're going to do the
Frog
and why is it for told my friend told me do not do the frog out of here. So what I found is gross, I don't want you to have to do that because I would have to listen
to it. It definitely does sound gross but you you feel OK after drinking all that water there
quickly. Yeah, but I spat it out.
That's true. Most of it right? There's got to be a lot of challenges on purpose. Yeah, Jesus.
You're a weird Man David Blaine. You really are. That's what I was getting at. Like what I'm saying? There's not a lot of people like you out. I'm glad you're there. I really am. I'm glad you're out there first of all because I think you're very entertaining but also because I'm I love when there is a new type of person that I meet, you know, and your there's not I've met a lot of people but you're in this new like oh and then there's this guy, you know, this is like I'll totally new frequency of human or just freak.
Take out the Quincy well, but I mean it's a very strange path that you're
on.
I mean ultimately it's like it don't it is the end of the day. It's trying to just figure out how to make things that seem as as close to Magic as possible and the process is really difficult and tricky and laborious to get to but eventually start to figure out how this could look magical with this or this could
you know, but you seem like a very joyful person because of all this you clearly love what you do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah do that your spark. Yeah. It's like
Now you love it. Yeah, that's what's interesting. It's like such a strange thing to love to do.
Stan well not so what I used to do is crazy
fight take a long time, but that but I'm saying that's crazy like it is maybe but that's the same it's the same you're pushing your body to do things that most people but you're basically you're living in a place where you have to override discomfort and if the override but your body is trying to tell you not to do and you push yourself, you know, it's and then it and it's that whole journey of pushing yourself to do.
Things that you physically don't think you can do or to set a goal that that's the best part.
I think I'm just fascinated by people that are really far down on a path that seems real deal. And I've we are brought up that woman Stephanie millinger on the podcast before I follow her on Instagram and I know of posted some more stuff on Instagram, but she's like a contortionist and she has like incredible balance and core strength, and she's very small woman.
Woman who does insane things with her body like she did this one. She's on a handstand and she bends her back so that her butt touches her head like her spine is so flexible that you look at some of the things that she does and they don't seem to be like watch this. Look at this. Yeah, watch how she does this and look and also she's bouncing on these posts. Right? So but look what she does with her bed. Wow, look at that. That is amazing. Amazing. Yeah, and then she stands with one hand.
And she is by the way. She does this like off the side of cliffs and she's incredible. Like look at the way her body is
contorted. Yeah, that's
incredible pressing her butt against the top of her head in the craziest way. Like it doesn't seem like a person should be able to do that and the amount of physical strength that it takes to move your body like this and balance while you're doing it is just it's the the
years and the amount of
time. Yeah. This is what I'm
Saying like she's so far down the path. See if you can find the one when she bounces on the plates that one in the middle when you see the plate watch this so she takes a this is like a standard Olympic weightlifting plate, right? So she puts it down. So it's on its Edge and then she stands it on top of a bar. Right? So you got this like this bar that was like a small so it's a round thing bouncing on another round thing.
Is amazing and then she lifts her whole body all the way up and over and does a handstand on this fucking thing.
I mean it's in she's amazing. It's an unbelievable and again always smiling always like joyful loves loves this but the physical strength that it takes to do something like that and the kind of balance. That's what I'm talking about. Like someone who's on this crazy path where if you you asked someone could someone do that you'd like. No, but your body doesn't work like that. It's not a body works. But it does you just have to take these little baby steps for years and then you look back and you're in a different place. And then also you find
It's a version of it and then you figure out how to make it your own. Yes. Yeah taking something and then made it like a hole. Yes. You are right poetic. Yeah.
Yeah. She's or like Cirque du Soleil that like whenever I time I go to see sir. I've seen most of the Cirque du Soleil shows every time I go I'm like what the fuck? How are the folks that pop? What do they do? What are there aliens? Like? Yeah, but they're on a path. They're just really far down on this path of extreme dedication.
Extreme focus and that's what you're doing. You're just doing it with bizarre physical Feats and Magic. It's very interesting. It's very interesting. I'm really happy that you're around. I really am. I enjoy the fact that a person like you exist. Well, thank you, too, and I want to thank you for being here to man. I really enjoyed the fuck out of it is very cool. Very cool to talk to you tomorrow. I'm
going to meet you for a long
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